Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 04:26:34AM +0100, [email protected] wrote:
>On 10 Nov 15:46, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
>> On Sun, 9 Nov 2025 11:46:37 +0100 Jiri Pirko wrote:
>> > >So, I checked a couple of flows internally, and it seems this allows
>> > >some flexibility in the FW to decide later on which mode to pick,
>> > >based on other parameters, which practically means
>> > >"user has no preference on this param". Driver can only find out
>> > >after boot, when it reads the runtime capabilities, but still
>> > >this is a bug, by the time the driver reads this (in devlink), the
>> > >default value should've already been determined by FW, so FW must
>> > >return the actual runtime value. Which can only be one of the following
>> > 
>> > I don't think it is correct to expose the "default" as a value.
>> > 
>> > On read, user should see the configured value, either "full_csum" or
>> > "l4_only". Reporting "default" to the user does not make any sense.
>> > On write, user should pass either "full_csum" or "l4_only". Why we would
>> > ever want to pass "default"?
>> 
>> FWIW I agree that this feels a bit odd. Should the default be a flag
>> attr? On get flag being present means the value is the FW default (no
>> override present). On set passing the flag means user wants to reset
>> to FW default (remove override)?
>> 
>> > Regardless this patch, since this is param to be reflected on fw reboot
>> > (permanent cmode), I think it would be nice to expose indication if
>> > param value passed to user currently affects the fw, or if it is going
>> > to be applied after fw reboot. Perhaps a simple bool attr would do?
>> 
>> IIUC we're basically talking about user having no information that
>> the update is pending? Could this be done by the core? Core can do
>> a ->get prior to calling ->set and if the ->set succeeds and
>> cmode != runtime record that the update is pending?
>> 
>
>Could work if on GET driver reads 'current' value from FW, then it should
>be simpler if GET != SET then 'pending', one problem though is if SET was
>done by external tool or value wasn't applied after reboot, then we loose
>that information, but do we care? I think we shouldn't.
>
>> That feels very separate from the series tho, there are 3 permanent
>> params in mlx5, already. Is there something that makes this one special?

Agreed. That is why I wrote "regardless this patch". But I think the
pending indication is definitelly nice to have.


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>In mlx5 they all have the same behavior, devlink sets 'next' value, devlink
>reads 'next' value. The only special thing about the new param
>is that it has a 'device_default' value and when you read that from 'next' it
>will always show 'device_default' as the actual value is only
>known at run time ,e.g. 'next boot'.
>
>I think the only valid solution for permanent and drv_init params is to
>have 'next' and 'current' values reported by driver on read. Or maybe go just
>with  'set' != 'get' then 'pending' as discussed above ?

Hmm, is it possible to rebind the driver without fw going through
next-boot phase? I'm wondering if it wouldn't be safer to have this
pending flag set to be responsibility of the driver...


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