nin-lil-izi "The 460 is the Die Shrunk Fermi" tribaljet "there are already a few lower die shrunk fermi gpus."
Two people talked about it... On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:19 PM, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote: > I know what a die shrink is. What I'm asking is who said anything > about shader core reduction. > > On Aug 4, 5:27 am, Jeremy Shaw <[email protected]> wrote: > > Okay :) > > > > Die shrink: > > Most GPU are manufactured at TSMC, which some at UMC. Let's say the G92, > > which launched at 65nm in the 8800gt, and the 8800gts512. Later, nVidia > used > > the 55nm TSMC process, thus creating a G92 55nm variant - a die shrunk > G92 > > chip. > > > > Nin-lil-izi refered the GTX460 (GF104) as a "die shrunk Fermi," which it > > isn't. It's a slightly reordered Fermi (GF100 - GTX465, GTX470, GTX480 - > has > > 32 shaders per SM; GF104 - GTX460 - has 48 shaders per SM), with fewer > > shader cores (GF100 has 512 in it's design, GF104 has 384 in it's > design). > > Both the GF104 and the GF100 are manufactured on TSMC's 40nm process. > They > > are also two rather different chips, sharing on the same overall > > architecture name. A GF104 is not a die shrunk GF100, it's a high level > > (meaning the shaders stay the same, how they are organised is > > different) redesign of the GF100 with fewer shader cores. > > > > On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 5:55 AM, tribaljet <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > You lost me there Jeremy :) What shader cores reduction? > > > > > On Aug 3, 9:00 am, Jeremy Shaw <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Die shrink refers to fab process, not shader core reduction. > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Nin-lil-izi > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > AFAIK. The 460 is the Die Shrunk Fermi > > > > > > > On Jul 30, 4:45 pm, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > There are mods to make Nvidias+Atis gpus work together and have > physx > > > > > > on. > > > > > > > > @Angelic: For day to day usage, none of the new gen gpus are > good, > > > you > > > > > > are better served with GTX2xx or HD48xx. GTX480 will be revised > soon > > > > > > so it doesn't double as an oven :) > > > > > > If you can, always go for powerful single gpu solutions, with the > > > > > > exception of truly required parallel processing. > > > > > > Yes, the GTX460 is the best price/performance new gen nvidia, but > I > > > > > > would wait for either die shrunk versions or the next series. So > far > > > a > > > > > > GTX260 SP216 does all the work someone requires. > > > > > > > > @Matias: Have 4GB Ram instead of 2, and get a GTX260 regular or > SP216 > > > > > > edition, and you will be able to max crysis at 1024x768, being > your > > > > > > cpu the limiting factor, but it's alright to run most things. Oh, > and > > > > > > TES IV will run at max settings with that hardware. Don't make > any > > > > > > mistakes, power=nvidia, price=ati. Would be perfect if you could > go > > > to > > > > > > a GTX260 instead of the GTS250, but it's your budget. > > > > > > > > On Jul 30, 4:25 pm, Espionage724 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Ok that makes more sense. > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Nin-lil-izi > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Its using ATI+NVidia GPUS in the same system that PhysX was > > > recently > > > > > > > > disabled for. > > > > > > > > AMD+NVidia HW PhysX works just fine out the box. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Acer TravelMate 2480 > > > > > > > GFX: GMA950 CPU: Intel Celeron M 420 @ 1.6Ghz RAM: 2GB DDR2 > > > 333Mhz > > > > > > > HDD: Samsung 120GB 5400RPM SATA > > > > > > > -- > > > > > 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS > > > > > -- > > > 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS > > > > > > -- > 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS > -- 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS
