Exactly. There are plenty of known vendors who launch whql drivers
that are truly crappy, but sure sound reliable since they have the
almighty whql logo on it :S

On Aug 10, 1:36 am, Espionage724 <[email protected]> wrote:
> Pffft I see no reason why we can't get WHQL then :p
>
> But wow that seems a bit ridiculous, I thought the idea of it was for
> Microsoft to test the driver and verify if it's safe, but it sounds
> more like pay microsoft money to have your driver sound
> trustworthy....
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 8:34 PM, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote:
> > If I'm not mistaken, microsoft is charging 10,000$ for a whql
> > certification, and that's why both ati and nvidia don't bother getting
> > whql for many of their drivers. Intel on the other hand launches much
> > less drivers, and even then they probably get them for much lower cost
> > or even for free given the whole wintel alliance.
>
> > On Aug 9, 9:14 pm, Espionage724 <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> I would have to agree with that statement tribaljet. Plus there is
> >> still the one issue on how we would even get the driver to start on a
> >> x64 OS with the driver signature enforcement thing, that is unless we
> >> can somehow get a WHQL signature from microsoft, or if we wanted to
> >> press F8 everytime we started up to load the drivers.
>
> >> I went back to x64 windows on my new laptop because I like UEFI boot,
> >> other then that, theres no real advantage for me switching.
>
> >> On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 4:04 PM, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > I get what you mean Jeremy, but my machine is a Core Duo with x86
> >> > architecture, and the driver being only x64 would leave me and many
> >> > others without being able to use it. x64 architecture users can use
> >> > both x86 and x64 drivers, while x86 architecture users can only use
> >> > x86 drivers, so it would leave us all out. Yes, x64 is the future. No,
> >> > the fact that the x64 machines that come with x64 drivers doesn't make
> >> > them run faster (most run faster with x86 OSes and the ram cap). Yes,
> >> > Athlon 64 was a great cpu.
>
> >> > My point is that there is no need to exclude all x86 users, specially
> >> > when most software/drivers/apps run slower in a x64 environment. I
> >> > have nothing against it, but after 6 years things certainly aren't
> >> > where they were supposed to be. I hope Angelic doesn't get mad at me
> >> > for saying this, but (if he wanted) the right thing would be to first
> >> > make a x86 driver that ALL can use, then make a x64 version.
>
> >> > On Aug 9, 8:01 pm, Jeremy Shaw <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> /// third sentance should be split into two sentances, otherwise it 
> >> >> would be
> >> >> an accidential contracidtion.
>
> >> >> On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Jeremy Shaw <[email protected]> 
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > tribaljet, lolattheotherguy didn't explain it too well, but he's 
> >> >> > right.
> >> >> > Most CPU since 2004 are 64bit, even the later Pentium CPU were, too
> >> >> > (netburst based), only Intel's crap-filled Atom and the Core "1" 
> >> >> > series
> >> >> > aren't. They all are (even the 64bit CPU) X86 achitecture, with 64bit
> >> >> > additions (that AMD developed), called X86-64.
>
> >> >> > That being said, it's upto AngelicTears, so don't push him, 
> >> >> > especially if
> >> >> > his machine is not 64bit (I dunno if it is, and I don't care to 
> >> >> > check).
>
> >> >> > Anyhow, I give up. Goodbye.
>
> >> >> >   On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 6:37 AM, tribaljet <[email protected]> 
> >> >> > wrote:
>
> >> >> >> Anyway, I'm just going to replace 1GB with 2GB, and keeping the other
> >> >> >> 1GB module. I currently just need that extra amount of ram for my
> >> >> >> system to run smooth as desired. I'm not going to spend any more 
> >> >> >> money
> >> >> >> on it, specially since I'm about to spend quite some money on a new
> >> >> >> soundcard and proper headphones (none of that pc audio crap :D ).
>
> >> >> >> On Aug 8, 2:33 pm, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> >> > I'm guessing that wasn't for me as I asked such question a very 
> >> >> >> > long
> >> >> >> > time ago and no one answers. Since intel info was contradictory, I 
> >> >> >> > had
> >> >> >> > to test it myself on other intel chipsets.
>
> >> >> >> > On Aug 8, 8:29 am, "THEfog ." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> >> >> > > Haha I could have told you that ages ago, however keep in mind 
> >> >> >> > > some
> >> >> >> that
> >> >> >> > > some mainboards (950 chipset) will flip out and cause crashs and
> >> >> >> graphics
> >> >> >> > > corruption when more that 3.0GB of RAM is installed (confirmed 3
> >> >> >> cases, can
> >> >> >> > > give model numbers and OS if requested)
>
> >> >> >> > > THEfog
>
> >> >> >> > > On 07/08/2010 2:46 PM, "tribaljet" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> >> >> > > As long as the cpu doesn't take a hard hit from PAE, I agree as 
> >> >> >> > > well
> >> >> >> > > (some cpus have heavier overhead from it than others).
>
> >> >> >> > > On a non related note, after some research I finally decided to 
> >> >> >> > > get a
> >> >> >> > > 2GB module, replacing one of my 1GB modules for one of 2GB. 
> >> >> >> > > Seems like
> >> >> >> > > the 945 chipset does support asymmetric dual channel, so I'm 
> >> >> >> > > kinda
> >> >> >> > > safe :)
>
> >> >> >> > > On Aug 7, 4:20 am, AngelicTears <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> >> >> > > > hey all,
>
> >> >> >> > > > @uncleferassi
> >> >> >> > > > lol, yea...
> >> >> >> > > > On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 10:32 AM, tribaljet 
> >> >> >> > > > <[email protected]>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> > > > > Exactly. All systems...
>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS
>
> >> > --
> >> > 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS
>
> >> --
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> >> GFX: GMA950   CPU: Intel Celeron M 420 @ 1.6Ghz   RAM: 2GB DDR2 333Mhz
> >>   HDD: Samsung 120GB 5400RPM SATA
>
> > --
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>
> --
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> GFX: GMA950   CPU: Intel Celeron M 420 @ 1.6Ghz   RAM: 2GB DDR2 333Mhz
>   HDD: Samsung 120GB 5400RPM SATA

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