Yea, a great example is the nvidia driver that disabled the fan on
some cards lol...

On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:12 PM, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote:
> Exactly. There are plenty of known vendors who launch whql drivers
> that are truly crappy, but sure sound reliable since they have the
> almighty whql logo on it :S
>
> On Aug 10, 1:36 am, Espionage724 <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Pffft I see no reason why we can't get WHQL then :p
>>
>> But wow that seems a bit ridiculous, I thought the idea of it was for
>> Microsoft to test the driver and verify if it's safe, but it sounds
>> more like pay microsoft money to have your driver sound
>> trustworthy....
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 8:34 PM, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > If I'm not mistaken, microsoft is charging 10,000$ for a whql
>> > certification, and that's why both ati and nvidia don't bother getting
>> > whql for many of their drivers. Intel on the other hand launches much
>> > less drivers, and even then they probably get them for much lower cost
>> > or even for free given the whole wintel alliance.
>>
>> > On Aug 9, 9:14 pm, Espionage724 <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> I would have to agree with that statement tribaljet. Plus there is
>> >> still the one issue on how we would even get the driver to start on a
>> >> x64 OS with the driver signature enforcement thing, that is unless we
>> >> can somehow get a WHQL signature from microsoft, or if we wanted to
>> >> press F8 everytime we started up to load the drivers.
>>
>> >> I went back to x64 windows on my new laptop because I like UEFI boot,
>> >> other then that, theres no real advantage for me switching.
>>
>> >> On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 4:04 PM, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> > I get what you mean Jeremy, but my machine is a Core Duo with x86
>> >> > architecture, and the driver being only x64 would leave me and many
>> >> > others without being able to use it. x64 architecture users can use
>> >> > both x86 and x64 drivers, while x86 architecture users can only use
>> >> > x86 drivers, so it would leave us all out. Yes, x64 is the future. No,
>> >> > the fact that the x64 machines that come with x64 drivers doesn't make
>> >> > them run faster (most run faster with x86 OSes and the ram cap). Yes,
>> >> > Athlon 64 was a great cpu.
>>
>> >> > My point is that there is no need to exclude all x86 users, specially
>> >> > when most software/drivers/apps run slower in a x64 environment. I
>> >> > have nothing against it, but after 6 years things certainly aren't
>> >> > where they were supposed to be. I hope Angelic doesn't get mad at me
>> >> > for saying this, but (if he wanted) the right thing would be to first
>> >> > make a x86 driver that ALL can use, then make a x64 version.
>>
>> >> > On Aug 9, 8:01 pm, Jeremy Shaw <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> /// third sentance should be split into two sentances, otherwise it 
>> >> >> would be
>> >> >> an accidential contracidtion.
>>
>> >> >> On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Jeremy Shaw <[email protected]> 
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > tribaljet, lolattheotherguy didn't explain it too well, but he's 
>> >> >> > right.
>> >> >> > Most CPU since 2004 are 64bit, even the later Pentium CPU were, too
>> >> >> > (netburst based), only Intel's crap-filled Atom and the Core "1" 
>> >> >> > series
>> >> >> > aren't. They all are (even the 64bit CPU) X86 achitecture, with 64bit
>> >> >> > additions (that AMD developed), called X86-64.
>>
>> >> >> > That being said, it's upto AngelicTears, so don't push him, 
>> >> >> > especially if
>> >> >> > his machine is not 64bit (I dunno if it is, and I don't care to 
>> >> >> > check).
>>
>> >> >> > Anyhow, I give up. Goodbye.
>>
>> >> >> >   On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 6:37 AM, tribaljet <[email protected]> 
>> >> >> > wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> Anyway, I'm just going to replace 1GB with 2GB, and keeping the 
>> >> >> >> other
>> >> >> >> 1GB module. I currently just need that extra amount of ram for my
>> >> >> >> system to run smooth as desired. I'm not going to spend any more 
>> >> >> >> money
>> >> >> >> on it, specially since I'm about to spend quite some money on a new
>> >> >> >> soundcard and proper headphones (none of that pc audio crap :D ).
>>
>> >> >> >> On Aug 8, 2:33 pm, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > I'm guessing that wasn't for me as I asked such question a very 
>> >> >> >> > long
>> >> >> >> > time ago and no one answers. Since intel info was contradictory, 
>> >> >> >> > I had
>> >> >> >> > to test it myself on other intel chipsets.
>>
>> >> >> >> > On Aug 8, 8:29 am, "THEfog ." <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> > > Haha I could have told you that ages ago, however keep in mind 
>> >> >> >> > > some
>> >> >> >> that
>> >> >> >> > > some mainboards (950 chipset) will flip out and cause crashs and
>> >> >> >> graphics
>> >> >> >> > > corruption when more that 3.0GB of RAM is installed (confirmed 3
>> >> >> >> cases, can
>> >> >> >> > > give model numbers and OS if requested)
>>
>> >> >> >> > > THEfog
>>
>> >> >> >> > > On 07/08/2010 2:46 PM, "tribaljet" <[email protected]> 
>> >> >> >> > > wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> > > As long as the cpu doesn't take a hard hit from PAE, I agree as 
>> >> >> >> > > well
>> >> >> >> > > (some cpus have heavier overhead from it than others).
>>
>> >> >> >> > > On a non related note, after some research I finally decided to 
>> >> >> >> > > get a
>> >> >> >> > > 2GB module, replacing one of my 1GB modules for one of 2GB. 
>> >> >> >> > > Seems like
>> >> >> >> > > the 945 chipset does support asymmetric dual channel, so I'm 
>> >> >> >> > > kinda
>> >> >> >> > > safe :)
>>
>> >> >> >> > > On Aug 7, 4:20 am, AngelicTears <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> > > > hey all,
>>
>> >> >> >> > > > @uncleferassi
>> >> >> >> > > > lol, yea...
>> >> >> >> > > > On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 10:32 AM, tribaljet 
>> >> >> >> > > > <[email protected]>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > > > > Exactly. All systems...
>>
>> >> >> >> --
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