Unfortunately, no -- my HDTV, while a nice one, is older and doesn't have HDMI inputs. As for Big Fish games, yes, doesnt scale. Those same games (their Mac versions) scale fine under OSX, and of course they scale fine when outputting to my Dell 2400FPW LCD computer monitor. It's just when output to the HDTV, under Windows, that it doesn't work, and no options in the control panel. It's so wierd. I cant believe im the only person whose run into this problem. I've scoured the internet, intel support forums, etc, and no one had any info on it. You guys were the only ones who were knowledgeable on it and I appreciate your help. I could try getting rid of Win 7 and going back to Win XP... however, since I already forced Win 7 to use Vista drives, and those didnt have the scaling option either, then I suspect Win XP won't make a difference either. I could try to get tech support from Intel -- tho I'm sure that will be tricky.
I'll try V1.2, but I have a feeling its not a version problem..its definitely something where the Intel Control Panel is coded to show or not that option based on some feature that it thinks I have or dont have on my display adapter and monitor. I can tell there's room for the option in the dialog window and that is has been hidden because of my configuration. I just dont know what's missing from my configuration that is forcing it to hide the Scaling option. I'm surprised there's no config file or Registry setting for it. Thanks again.. I'll keep trying and let you know what I find out. Jeff. On Nov 11, 8:21 pm, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote: > Actually it matters, as intel mac drivers are very different, both in > functionality and performance. Can you connect your TV through HDMI? > Also, there are a few members here that might be able to give more > info, but you should try both stock drivers and V1.2 with a clean > driver install, not with previously installed drivers. Also keep in > mind that despite macs already having boot camp and other solutions, > there isn't total compatibility when compared to a true pc. Did you > say that it only doesn't scale with games from big fish? > > On 12 Nov, 01:17, Jeff <[email protected]> wrote:> well guys, sorry to > report that the 1.1E drivers didnt make a > > difference. Still no option for scaling on teh display settings tab. > > And for what its worth, no Information button either, so I can't dump > > any more info like from before. This is mindblowing.. the wierdest > > part is that the very same Mac Mini (and its same GMA 950) DOES scale > > games to full screen when running under OSX... just no option under > > Win 7. Isn't it possible that it's because of my TV? Or maybe > > because I'm connected thru DVI, not HDMI. But no.. that shouldnt > > matter because like I said, if I just boot into OSX, it works fine... > > ARGHHH!!!!! > > > I'm very appreciative of your help... if you have any last ideas > > please shoot em' my way. Is there no config file or such where I can > > just hand-code the setting for scaling? I tried to tweak the registry > > setting called 'Primary Aspect Ratio', but it didnt seem to make any > > difference. > > > Thanks again, Jeff. > > > On Nov 11, 8:02 pm, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I get your point, but most hardware is usually modified despite being > > > the same hardware with the same specs. > > > > On 12 Nov, 01:02, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > It's a mac, not a pc, the hardware is different. > > > > > On 12 Nov, 00:44, UncleFerassi <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Wait a second, since he dual-booted Win 7 with OSX, shouldn't > > > > > installing the drivers would be the same as in a real PC? It's not > > > > > like he's installing in on OSX. Or is there a like a hardware > > > > > difference in the GMA between a mac and regular pc? > > > > > > On Nov 11, 4:36 pm, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > If it was a regular pc, I would be perfectly ok with installing pre- > > > > > > final V1.2 because there already have been quite some users with > > > > > > good > > > > > > feedback. But by reading the topic from the start, you'll notice > > > > > > that > > > > > > Jeff is looking for functionality, not increased performance, as he > > > > > > will already have increased performance over stock drivers since > > > > > > he's > > > > > > installing V1.1E. > > > > > > > On 12 Nov, 00:34, UncleFerassi <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dude, chill. Sorry for recommending installing beta drivers which > > > > > > > might possibly be unstable for non-pc machine. Now that I think > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > it, it was actually pretty stupid of me. I just thought it would > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > the best driver for him and trying to help out, that's all. Let's > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > see his feedback on this method, aight? > > > > > > > > On Nov 11, 4:28 pm, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Nice one. Next time advise installing pre-alpha software on a > > > > > > > > non pc > > > > > > > > machine, that's genious... > > > > > > > > > On 12 Nov, 00:17, UncleFerassi <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Since you have a 945GM, a better driver choice would to > > > > > > > > > install > > > > > > > > > AngelicTear's V1.2 Driver, with all the latest tech from > > > > > > > > > Intel > > > > > > > > > 9xxhttp://groups.google.com/group/intel9x-gaming/browse_thread/thread/b3... > > > > > > > > > Just setup and play, no need for uninstalling display > > > > > > > > > drivers(At least > > > > > > > > > that's what Angelic said :P ) > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 11, 3:33 pm, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, think of your device ID as being 27A2, ok? Now head to > > > > > > > > > > our modded > > > > > > > > > > drivers download > > > > > > > > > > page:http://groups.google.com/group/intel9x-gaming/web/drivers-for-9xx > > > > > > > > > > and get V1.1E. After downloading it, uninstall the graphic > > > > > > > > > > drivers, > > > > > > > > > > reboot and clean the registry. After than install V1.1E and > > > > > > > > > > reboot. > > > > > > > > > > After that you should have all options in place. The only > > > > > > > > > > thing > > > > > > > > > > slightly less usual with your config is the presence of a > > > > > > > > > > Silicon > > > > > > > > > > Image encoder, but I'm guessing it was Apple's doing, > > > > > > > > > > shouldn't be of > > > > > > > > > > concern for what we're doing. > > > > > > > > > > Try that and tell us how it goes. Good luck ;) > > > > > > > > > > > On 11 Nov, 22:15, Jeff <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, I have an entry in device manager for Mobile Intel > > > > > > > > > > > Express 945 > > > > > > > > > > > Chipset. I presume this is the chipset underlying the > > > > > > > > > > > GMA 950 > > > > > > > > > > > product. In details tab, nothing called Device ID, but > > > > > > > > > > > there is > > > > > > > > > > > something called "Hardware IDs". it shows: > > > > > > > > > > > > PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27A2&SUBSYS_72708086&REV_03 > > > > > > > > > > > PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27A2&SUBSYS_72708086 > > > > > > > > > > > PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27A2&CC_030000 > > > > > > > > > > > PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27A2&CC_0300 > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, from the Intel Control Panel, I've copied below the > > > > > > > > > > > info shown > > > > > > > > > > > on the Information tab. NOTE: you'll see it shwos I'm > > > > > > > > > > > using an older > > > > > > > > > > > driver... this is only because I tried to use the Vista > > > > > > > > > > > driver for > > > > > > > > > > > kicks to see if it would fix my problem. It didnt..still > > > > > > > > > > > doesnt show > > > > > > > > > > > an 'Aspect' or 'Scaling' option anywhere. > > > > > > > > > > > > Intel(R) Graphics Media Accelerator Driver for Mobile > > > > > > > > > > > Report > > > > > > > > > > > > Report Date: 11/11/2010 > > > > > > > > > > > Report Time[hr:mm:ss]: 17:13:46 > > > > > > > > > > > Driver Version: 7.14.10.1504 > > > > > > > > > > > Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate* , > > > > > > > > > > > (6.1.7600) > > > > > > > > > > > Default Language: English > > > > > > > > > > > DirectX* Version: 10.0 > > > > > > > > > > > Physical Memory: 992 MB > > > > > > > > > > > Minimum Graphics Memory: 16 MB > > > > > > > > > > > Maximum Graphics Memory: 240 MB > > > > > > > > > > > Graphics Memory in Use: 125 MB > > > > > > > > > > > Processor: x86 family 6 Model 15 Stepping 2 > > > > > > > > > > > Processor Speed: 1833 MHZ > > > > > > > > > > > Vendor ID: 8086 > > > > > > > > > > > Device ID: 27A2 > > > > > > > > > > > Device Revision: 03 > > > > > > > > > > > > * Accelerator Information * > > > > > > > > > > > > Accelerator in Use: Mobile Intel(R) 945 > > > > > > > > > > > Express Chipset Family > > > > > > > > > > > Video BIOS: 1284 > > > > > > > > > > > Current Graphics Mode: 1600 by 900 True Color (30 Hz) > > > > > > > > > > > > * Devices Connected to the Graphics Accelerator * > > > > > > > > > > > > Active Digital Displays: 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > * Digital Display * > > > > > > > > > > > > Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor > > > > > > > > > > > Display Type: Digital > > > > > > > > > > > Gamma Value: 2.20 > > > > > > > > > > > DDC2 Protocol: Supported > > > > > > > > > > > Maximum Image Size: Horizontal: Not Available > > > > > > > > > > > Vertical: Not Available > > > > > > > > > > > Monitor Supported Modes: > > > > > > > > > > > 640 by 480 (60 Hz) > > > > > > > > > > > 720 by 480 (60 Hz) > > > > > > > > > > > 1920 by 540 (60 Hz) > > > > > > > > > > > Display Power Management Support: > > > > > > > > > > > Standby Mode: Not Supported > > > > > > > > > > > Suspend Mode: Not Supported > > > > > > > > > > > Active Off Mode: Not Supported > > > > > > > > > > > > * SDVO Encoder Report * > > > > > > > > > > > > ** Encoder 1 ** > > > > > > > > > > > Vendor ID: Silicon Image > > > > > > > > > > > Device ID: 170 > > > > > > > > > > > Device Revision: 3 > > > > > > > > > > > Major Version: 1 > > > > > > > > > > > Minor Version: 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 11, 4:18 pm, tribaljet <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Go to device manager, open GMA 950 properties, go to > > > > > > > > > > > > details and it's > > > > > > > > > > > > usually the second item. > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have "Notebook" and "TV" on the top of the window? > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11 Nov, 21:15, Jeff <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where do I get that from? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > btw, from the Display Settings tab in the control > > > > > > > > > > > > > panel, it shows my > > > > > > > > > > > > > TV under the 'Digital Display' tab. Is that right? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 11, 1:27 pm, tribaljet <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Post the device ID of your GMA 950 please. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 11, 6:25 pm, Jeff <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I went back and updated the driver per your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommendation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, the same issue -- the 'scaling' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > option doesn't show > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up. For some reason, the control panel is hiding > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that field. I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thought it was maybe due to my monitor type, so I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > updated the monitor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > driver to match my Sony TV, but it still didn't > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > work. So, I'm at a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > loss... this really stinks. I may have to go > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back and try to use Win > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > XP, to see if that makes a difference. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless you or anyone else knows what registery or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > config file holds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the setting for the scaling... i could directly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > edit that if possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again, Jeff. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 10, 10:24 pm, Jeff > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks yeh, I'll give it a shot... cuz I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > definitely do not have any > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > item below the 'refresh rate' drop down. I'll > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > let you know if re- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > installing work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your help so far. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jeff > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 10, 8:40 pm, tribaljet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You're on the right spot. Right below refresh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rate should be an item > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > called "monitor/screen expansion" with a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > button underneat with scaling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > options. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > About your hdtv being considered a generic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pnp monitor, it was only an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue with windows xp and earlier OSes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Despite you having that driver > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > version, you should still install the latest > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drivers from intel, which > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are indeed 1930, but there might be some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > missing entry or something, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that would be fixed by installing them again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 11, 1:37 am, Jeff > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i just checked..i have driver version: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8.15.10.1930 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I think these are the latest? In the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Intel control panel I have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the following options: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) quality > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) resolution > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) refresh rate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nothing about 'scaling' options. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do notice that my monitor shows up as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Generic PnP Monitor". I- Hide quoted text > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > - Show quoted text -... > > > > read more » -- 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS
