Fair enough, but you do know how bad the virtual hardware resample
onboards do, like realtek, cheap cmedias and idts, right? The audio
quality you're sending through it also plays a big role, but onboards
are tricky things to get the best out of its worst :) and trust me on
this, I've played with more onboards than I wished, as well as the
crappy conexant that came with my laptop.

On 1 Jan, 01:21, Espionage724 <[email protected]> wrote:
> Well with my 950GMA laptop, it had SPDIF so I used that with my 5.1 audio 
> sytem
>
> On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 10:08 AM, tribaljet <[email protected]> wrote:
> > There used to be three big solutions for audio in vista/7. First there
> > is a famous realtek to x-fi mod, enabling some of creative's x-fi
> > features on realtek (realtek only!) onboard chipsets. Then you have a
> > rather unstable and somewhat high cpu usage alchemy app that converts
> > ds and ds3d to openal, for games that either don't have native openal
> > or even the selection between ds3d and openal. And a great solution
> > that was literally deleted from the web :S a universal audio driver
> > that was amazingly lightweight, and pushed all audio hardware to their
> > limits.
>
> > @lolatthteotherguy: Ever since I got my dac and my amp, the way I
> > listened to sound really changed. I still keep my x-fi usb around for
> > serious gaming, but for everything else the dac beats it to the
> > punch :) I don't consider myself an audiophile either, but I'm going
> > on that direction. Also, not using lossy formats, using bit-matched
> > modes or using proper calculated resamples do help. Some of these
> > things are controversial, it's going to do with how you think and
> > listen to sound.
>
> > @Espionage: Would you sacrifice some cpu cycles for full accelerated
> > audio on 7? And what exactly you have outputting sound on your pc?
>
> > On 31 Dez, 04:48, AngelicTears <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> lol @ users asking from time travellers... :)
>
> >> still, i HATE Vista :)
>
> >> btw, Tribaljet..is there any way that i could use OpenAL on all games? ive
> >> tried Kane & Lynch 2 btw on my desktop and it uses openAL, it was as good 
> >> as
> >> the old time Dsound HAL was available... i missed those gaming days...
>
> >> On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 4:16 PM, PL4YaH <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > Well said Angelic. Heres my positive review for Vista,
>
> >> > Like Angelic said, Vista is a pretty bad OS made from Microsoft but
> >> > most good stuff about gaming and features comes from Vista. I mean
> >> > without Vista, There be no Windows 7 and Directx will still stay at 9
> >> > or 10. Aero theme looks pretty cool too. In fact having Vista
> >> > sometimes makes me look cool having a sickass PC. Vista is also has
> >> > security 5x better than Windows XP. What I didn't mention earlier on
> >> > my post is that my experience from Windows XP I like have a shitload
> >> > of virus's (Excuse my language). From Koobface virus's to BSOD (Blue
> >> > Screen Of Death). I got to admit I never had any problems with Vista
> >> > having virus's. Just the performance makes me lag. Overall my
> >> > experience from Vista is meh, 6/10 Windows XP 8/10 Windows 7 9/10
>
> >> > On Dec 30, 10:54 am, AngelicTears <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > > lol..i not gonna take back my word on vista...
> >> > > but tribaljet do have a point..
>
> >> > > as im not gonna take back my words, i do have words to back it up :)
>
> >> > > Vista is still a bad OS imo, BUT some of the features do really make it
> >> > > worth step for microsoft, like the ability to handle alternative memory
> >> > for
> >> > > cache, readyboost which exist starting in Vista, do really improve
> >> > > performance of everyday computing (mostly noticeable in browsing and 
> >> > > some
> >> > > light - medium resource usage games)...not to mention better VM
> >> > management
> >> > > resides in Vista kernel...at the same time the kernel security of Vista
> >> > > which 7 inherits is far more superior that XP despite having a larger
> >> > > footprint, and that base kernel is applied in 7 which till now still
> >> > secure
> >> > > for most non massive damaging malicious software...DirectX 10, vista
> >> > brought
> >> > > it when first launch and that my friend is no doubt a revolution to PC
> >> > > gaming, the effects are much real, the API it selfs is much faster than
> >> > > DiectX 9 API..the same API applied in 7 where DirectX 11 are not so 
> >> > > much
> >> > > different than DirectX 10, but added DirectCompute and other stuffs
> >> > making
> >> > > it better..again it's all starting from vista no doubt...
>
> >> > > the thing about Vista that i do not like is the way the indexing 
> >> > > service
> >> > > behave..it is still indexing even users are using the system, even on
> >> > > background so users cant really notice it consumes somewhat a large
> >> > portion
> >> > > of resource, which imo the main cause of slowdowns in vista, oh and 
> >> > > dont
> >> > > forget the indexing service start working on indexing files the moment
> >> > the
> >> > > system start and that is even before u login to desktop..ok, other 
> >> > > things
> >> > > again, despite having a better and more secure kernel than XP, other
> >> > parts
> >> > > of Vista is just nonsense, ActiveX and Group Policy security is 
> >> > > hackable
> >> > and
> >> > > do have it's loop holes compared to 7 (again 7 is far more superior 
> >> > > that
> >> > > vista no doubt)..also as far as DirectX 10 onwards is a great stuff, 
> >> > > the
> >> > > fact that they remove 3D sound / A3D / EAX support is just
> >> > disappointing..
> >> > > let's talk about GUI, no doubt Aero is a good step in windows GUI, i 
> >> > > have
> >> > no
> >> > > problem with Aero, but the fact that Vista GUI is messed up and 
> >> > > somewhat
> >> > > clotted is undeniable to me, but that's just me, and again 7 win with
> >> > more
> >> > > cleaner interface, but still using the same Aero engine as Vista did,
> >> > > although they did modify 7 window rendering to make it more efficient 
> >> > > and
> >> > > resource friendly..
> >> > > oh and dont forget the readyboot(correct me if im wrong about this
> >> > service
> >> > > name) service have it advantage on replacing XP old prefetch system, 
> >> > > but
> >> > in
> >> > > Vista, there are some flaws until they fixed it in 7, readyboot 
> >> > > clutters
> >> > the
> >> > > startup cache too much that the hard drive have a hard time loading up
> >> > most
> >> > > of the startup item and other services as well...
>
> >> > > there are soo much positive things that i may miss to say, but there 
> >> > > are
> >> > > also negative things that i dont like about vista, despite saying that,
> >> > it's
> >> > > all up to users opinion...as for me, again, im not gonna take my words
> >> > that
> >> > > bashing Vista earlier, but i have made my point above ... :) i am
> >> > apologize
> >> > > but that's my opinion... :)
>
> >> > > On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 10:34 AM, tribaljet <[email protected]>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > > And what are your thoughts on the matter?
>
> >> > > > On 30 Dez, 18:33, lolattheotherguy <[email protected]> 
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > lol no offense but that sounds absolutly "end-user" talk. More like
> >> > an
> >> > > > > opinion.
>
> >> > > > --
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>
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