I vote for the name being misleading. RTT is firmly associated with ping in my mind.

FYI ... a ping RTT monitor in the Status Window would be nice. More useful to me than the 'Round-trip time'/SNMP Response Time parameter. I would disable the 'Round-trip time' monitor if I had the option.

Steve Himebaugh

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Subject: Re: [IM-Talk] Round trip weirdness



I really can't see what's wrong with the name. It very directly tells
you that this is the time it takes the Probe Used to enquire and get
back a result.

It does not say 'Ping RTT' does it?


It's the same issue if you probe an Xserver for a lot of info - it can
easily take 500-2500ms, but then you know that the server is slow in
responding, or collecting the data.

If you wanna know the Ping RTT.. set up a probe for it.. ;-)



    Jakob Peterhänsel

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On 09/01/2008, at 17.31, Andrey Gordon wrote:

Hrm...

Perhaps then the name of that value is misleading. I can't come up with a better one at this time, but something like 'Last request took: N sec' would make more sense at a glance.

Andrey

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Janice Losgar
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:49 AM
To: 'InterMapper Discussion'
Subject: RE: [IM-Talk] Round trip weirdness

Andrey,

You can't compare the round-trip time of ping packets with an SNMP  probe.
For SNMP probes, round-trip time is calculated by the time it takes for the last packet sent to come back. In an SNMP probe with several variables, we
send one request for all the variables. The round-trip time is the  sum of
the time it takes to retrieve all the information, which would be much
different than a simple ping request.

Regards,

Janice Losgar
Dartware, LLC

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:32 PM
To: InterMapper Discussion
Subject: [IM-Talk] Round trip weirdness

I have map with a round trip time issue. I believe this is the only one, but
I haven't looked that close for this before.

You may notice from the paste of the status window that round trip time to
the device is over 150ms according to intermapper

Device Status
      Name: v08-g1-axs-2
  DNS Name: v08-g1-axs-2.epicsys.com
   Address: <snip>
    Status: UP
     Probe: SNMP - Cisco - Process and Memory Pool (port 161 SNMPv2c)
   Up Time: 172 days, 19 hours, 54 minutes
   SysName: v08-g1-axs-2.epicsys.com
 Availability:            100 % (of 4 days, 1 hour, 45 minutes)
 Packet Loss:            0.02 % (of 209673 total attempts)
 Short-term Packet Loss:  0.0 % (of 100 last attempts) [Reset]
 Recent Loss:  2 pkts at Jan 08, 15:06:31
 Round-trip time:  170 msec
Cisco Device Information
 CPU Percent Busy: 16 % (of last 5 seconds)
 Avg. CPU % Busy:  18 % (1 min.), 21 % (5 min.)
 Available Processor Memory: 830841508 bytes
 Available I/O Memory: 63583940 bytes
Last updated Jan 08, 17:29:23; interval: 5 seconds



however:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/~$ ping v08-g1-axs-2
PING v08-g1-axs-2.epicsys.com (<snip>) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from v08-g1-axs-2.epicsystems.com (<snip>): icmp_seq=0  ttl=254
time=1.20 ms
64 bytes from v08-g1-axs-2.epicsystems.com (<snip>): icmp_seq=1  ttl=254
time=1.57 ms
64 bytes from v08-g1-axs-2.epicsystems.com (<snip>): icmp_seq=2  ttl=254
time=1.17 ms
64 bytes from v08-g1-axs-2.epicsystems.com (<snip>): icmp_seq=3  ttl=254
time=0.834 ms
64 bytes from v08-g1-axs-2.epicsystems.com (<snip>): icmp_seq=4  ttl=254
time=0.751 ms
64 bytes from v08-g1-axs-2.epicsystems.com (<snip>): icmp_seq=5  ttl=254
time=1.03 ms
64 bytes from v08-g1-axs-2.epicsystems.com (<snip>): icmp_seq=6  ttl=254
time=0.939 ms

--- v08-g1-axs-2.epicsys.com ping statistics ---
7 packets transmitted, 7 received, 0% packet loss, time 6005ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.751/1.072/1.575/0.259 ms, pipe 2
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/~$


Why is this happening?

I'd like to mention that this device is not the only one that does it. I'd
like to mention that netmon2 is the server running the intermapper.  So,
intermapper thins the round trip time is 160ms, but CLI ping from the same
box is 1ms. My routers in europe show up with 130ms on the  intermapper.

The devices that do produce this weird round trip time are all my 3005 cisco VPNc, two fwsm blades and the core internet access router. I understand they use tons more CPU cycles then the rest, but then why does my CLI ping comes
back fine?

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