I understand the ability to change thresholds on server-wide or on a per-map
basis.  However, I would like to be alerted if the RTT becomes abnormal.

If I change the threshold to clean up my slow-to-reply SNMP devices, I won't
know if "normal" devices have abnormal RTT reply.  It seems to me that you'd
have to be able to set threshold on a per-device basis to accomplish this
goal. Maybe the ability to differentiate between ICMP RTT and SNMP RTT would
be an option?


On 1/9/08 2:46 PM, "Janice Losgar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Pat,
> 
> If you are using InterMapper version 4.5 or higher, you can configure the
> round-trip time thresholds for warning, alarm and critical alerts. You can
> do this server wide using the Server Settings > Device Thresholds settings;
> per-map using the Edit > Map Settings > Thresholds > Device settings; or
> per-device, using the Set Info > Set Thresholds command.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Janice Losgar
> Dartware, LLC
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat Storr
> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 3:38 PM
> To: InterMapper Discussion
> Subject: Re: [IM-Talk] Round trip weirdness
> 
> I will add my 2 cents here too.  We monitor as much as we can via SNMP.
> Some devices are slow to reply with the SNMP request, so the device displays
> as yellow, orange or red on the map even though they are operating normally.
> If we could change the threshold so they don't change colors based on SNMP
> RTT it would keep our maps much cleaner.
> 
> Pat
> 
> 
> On 1/9/08 2:27 PM, "Steve Himebaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> I vote for the name being misleading.  RTT is firmly associated with ping
> in
>> my mind.
>> 
>> FYI ... a ping RTT monitor in the Status Window would be nice.  More
> useful
>> to me than the 'Round-trip time'/SNMP Response Time parameter.  I would
>> disable the 'Round-trip time' monitor if I had the option.
>> 
>> Steve Himebaugh
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jakob Peterhänsel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "InterMapper Discussion" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 10:49 AM
>> Subject: Re: [IM-Talk] Round trip weirdness
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I really can't see what's wrong with the name. It very directly tells
>> you that this is the time it takes the Probe Used to enquire and get
>> back a result.
>> 
>> It does not say 'Ping RTT' does it?
>> 
>> 
>> It's the same issue if you probe an Xserver for a lot of info - it can
>> easily take 500-2500ms, but then you know that the server is slow in
>> responding, or collecting the data.
>> 
>> If you wanna know the Ping RTT.. set up a probe for it.. ;-)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>      Jakob Peterhänsel
>> 
>> "Be a part of the Love Generation - carry a smile, not a gun."
>> - JP, May 2006
>> 
>> Email:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> AIM:         Marook
>> Phone:     +45 29687104
>> 
>> 
>> On 09/01/2008, at 17.31, Andrey Gordon wrote:
>> 
>>> Hrm...
>>> 
>>> Perhaps then the name of that value is misleading. I can't come up  with
> a
>>> better one at this time, but something like 'Last request  took: N sec'
>>> would make more sense at a glance.
>>> 
>>> Andrey
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected]
>>> [mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Janice Losgar
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:49 AM
>>> To: 'InterMapper Discussion'
>>> Subject: RE: [IM-Talk] Round trip weirdness
>>> 
>>> Andrey,
>>> 
>>> You can't compare the round-trip time of ping packets with an SNMP
> probe.
>>> For SNMP probes, round-trip time is calculated by the time it takes  for
>>> the
>>> last packet sent to come back. In an SNMP probe with several  variables,
>>> we
>>> send one request for all the variables. The round-trip time is the  sum
> of
>>> the time it takes to retrieve all the information, which would be much
>>> different than a simple ping request.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Janice Losgar
>>> Dartware, LLC
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrey Gordon
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:32 PM
>>> To: InterMapper Discussion
>>> Subject: [IM-Talk] Round trip weirdness
>>> 
>>> I have map with a round trip time issue. I believe this is the only  one,
>>> but
>>> I haven't looked that close for this before.
>>> 
>>> You may notice from the paste of the status window that round trip  time
>>> to
>>> the device is over 150ms according to intermapper
>>> 
>>> Device Status
>>>       Name: v08-g1-axs-2
>>>   DNS Name: v08-g1-axs-2.epicsys.com
>>>    Address: <snip>
>>>     Status: UP
>>>      Probe: SNMP - Cisco - Process and Memory Pool (port 161 SNMPv2c)
>>>    Up Time: 172 days, 19 hours, 54 minutes
>>>    SysName: v08-g1-axs-2.epicsys.com
>>>  Availability:            100 % (of 4 days, 1 hour, 45 minutes)
>>>  Packet Loss:            0.02 % (of 209673 total attempts)
>>>  Short-term Packet Loss:  0.0 % (of 100 last attempts) [Reset]
>>>  Recent Loss:  2 pkts at Jan 08, 15:06:31
>>>  Round-trip time:  170 msec
>>> Cisco Device Information
>>>  CPU Percent Busy: 16 % (of last 5 seconds)
>>>  Avg. CPU % Busy:  18 % (1 min.), 21 % (5 min.)
>>>  Available Processor Memory: 830841508 bytes
>>>  Available I/O Memory: 63583940 bytes
>>> Last updated Jan 08, 17:29:23; interval: 5 seconds
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> however:
>>> 
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/~$ ping v08-g1-axs-2
>>> PING v08-g1-axs-2.epicsys.com (<snip>) 56(84) bytes of data.
>>> 64 bytes from v08-g1-axs-2.epicsystems.com (<snip>): icmp_seq=0  ttl=254
>>> time=1.20 ms
>>> 64 bytes from v08-g1-axs-2.epicsystems.com (<snip>): icmp_seq=1  ttl=254
>>> time=1.57 ms
>>> 64 bytes from v08-g1-axs-2.epicsystems.com (<snip>): icmp_seq=2  ttl=254
>>> time=1.17 ms
>>> 64 bytes from v08-g1-axs-2.epicsystems.com (<snip>): icmp_seq=3  ttl=254
>>> time=0.834 ms
>>> 64 bytes from v08-g1-axs-2.epicsystems.com (<snip>): icmp_seq=4  ttl=254
>>> time=0.751 ms
>>> 64 bytes from v08-g1-axs-2.epicsystems.com (<snip>): icmp_seq=5  ttl=254
>>> time=1.03 ms
>>> 64 bytes from v08-g1-axs-2.epicsystems.com (<snip>): icmp_seq=6  ttl=254
>>> time=0.939 ms
>>> 
>>> --- v08-g1-axs-2.epicsys.com ping statistics ---
>>> 7 packets transmitted, 7 received, 0% packet loss, time 6005ms
>>> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.751/1.072/1.575/0.259 ms, pipe 2
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/~$
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Why is this happening?
>>> 
>>> I'd like to mention that this device is not the only one that does  it.
>>> I'd
>>> like to mention that netmon2 is the server running the intermapper.  So,
>>> intermapper thins the round trip time is 160ms, but CLI ping from  the
>>> same
>>> box is 1ms. My routers in europe show up with 130ms on the  intermapper.
>>> 
>>> The devices that do produce this weird round trip time are all my  3005
>>> cisco
>>> VPNc, two fwsm blades and the core internet access router. I  understand
>>> they
>>> use tons more CPU cycles then the rest, but then why does my CLI  ping
>>> comes
>>> back fine?
>>> 
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