On Tue, Jul 21, 2020, at 10:34 AM, Josh Bruce wrote:
> Learning more everyday. This thread will be the “official thread” - 
> other related threads have been added to the RFC (including one from 11 
> years ago): https://bit.ly/php-0002-rfc <https://bit.ly/php-0002-rfc>
> 
> Created fork - with PR on fork to explore and leave notes without 
> hitting the mailing list with every little thing: 
> https://github.com/joshbruce/php-src/pull/1 
> <https://github.com/joshbruce/php-src/pull/1>
> 
> Will be letting this cool down for the recommended two weeks while I 
> learn the things and PHP 8 is prepared for release.
> 
> Not sure if this should be put up for a vote before or after the 
> implementation based on what I’ve read so. Seems the recommendation is 
> the vote first - unless sample implementation seems like it would be 
> helpful. I think it would; so, will proceed on the implementation 
> course pending feedback.
> 
> Thanks again for all the feedback, questions, and concerns!
> 
> Cheers,
> Josh

I'd say it's bad form to call a vote on something without at least a partial 
implementation and a path to finish the implementation.  Otherwise, even if it 
passes it may not happen and that's just all kinds of confusing.  The code 
doesn't have to be perfect, but at least enough to demonstrate it can be done 
and won't cause a 50% performance regression.  That also gives voters 
confidence that if the RFC passes the code will actually get completed by the 
people that proposed it, rather than just expecting someone else to magically 
do it for them.

--Larry Garfield

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