Den fre. 21. aug. 2020 kl. 09.03 skrev Brent Roose <bre...@stitcher.io>: > What about people who occasionaly contribute to docs? Are they more eligable > to vote than someone like Nicalos Grekas? It's a good thing he got voting > rights, but in my mind that should have been a no-brainer. I realise some > people might get upset with this point of view, but I don't think that > occasionaly contributing to PHP docs makes you a better representative than > having actively shaped the PHP landscape over the past decade.
Difference is that people who "occasionally" contribute to docs are involved with the PHP project, they are contributors, not users. So yes they are more eligible to vote because that is the privilege that they earn by being contributors, not users. Sure we have a high barrier of entry, but if we let the floodgates open for any abled soul to begin voting and judging then we would never get anything productive done. The RFC experiment on Github was a mess, sure there was some valuable feedback there but there was a multitude of equal feedback that was useless because it was so open. > How many people have voting rights? Over 200 if I'm not mistaken? How many of > those have been activly contributing to PHP for over the past year? I think > that's a better question to answer. If half of those people's voting rights > get revoked then maybe there's room to allow a few more key community figures > to participate? There are 1876 VCS accounts and then we have a number of wiki only users who can vote. We have no metrics that can measure such, because a lot of things happen behind the scenes that you see. The discussion that I referenced in my earlier reply that took place last year tried to revoke existing contributors from their right to vote that they have earned by using the amount of commits or something in that direction as a metric to tell if a contributor was "active". Neither do we have a process to clean this, and for most project members that seems fine so it has not changed. What baffles me is that non project contributors really seem interested in taking a stab at this without really being involved in the project in any way. If you want to have the right to vote, then please earn it by being a part of the project. If I want the right to vote on features in userland projects, then I would also earn it like a regular contributor if I wanted it so dearly. It really does not take much effort. There is nothing that stops an RFC author from surveying userland various communities before they seek to have it accepted into PHP proper. Twitter is a decent place to do so. -- regards, Kalle Sommer Nielsen ka...@php.net -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: https://www.php.net/unsub.php