On 21 January 2026 14:59:52 GMT, Talysson Lima <[email protected]> wrote:
>It's astonishing how such an important issue, one that could change the >direction of PHP and is highly requested by the community – native >asynchronous support in PHP – doesn't receive the necessary attention. > >It's almost disrespectful to the tremendous effort Ed put into it. Everyone >knows that passing the RFC isn't necessary; it's a democratic process. But >apparently, there's a closed group of people who mutually favor each other >and exclude others. Perhaps if this had been proposed by someone like >Nikita, it would have received more attention. It's astonishing, and disrespectful, how many people who have never participated in the mailing list feel entitled to jump in and make accusations about those who do. There is no secret cabal blocking discussion of this RFC, and no personality cult discrediting the effort put into it. Previous rounds of discussion produced huge numbers of replies - leading to the same conspiracy theories about why we weren't all just agreeing and getting on with it! The truth is, this is an extremely complex project, and the PHP project lacks any process suitable for tackling it. What is the right level of comment for a document with an estimated reading time of over an hour? Do we start with the principles of moving the language in this direction? Debate the philosophy of different async models? Jump straight into the details of every function name? The idea of a "working group" was discussed, but no process was established, no "charter", no milestones. Edmond has been doing an amazing amount of work, and I will repeat that I have huge respect for that effort. But if you drop an encyclopedia on someone's desk and say "discuss", is it really surprising that people don't know what to say? If there's a problem with the culture of the project, it's that there is too little central control; nobody has the authority or responsibility to make big organisational decisions. We have no "benevolent dictator", no corporate sponsor, no appointed Steering Committee. I don't know what to do to get this project moving forward, but accusing people of deliberately blocking it does not help anyone. Rowan Tommins [IMSoP]
