Hi,
Il 25/05/2026 21:16, Daniel Scherzer wrote:
^^^This - I voted no for the same reason. If the RFC passes, I plan to
write up a follow-up to change the terms.
After discussion with some other release managers and developers at
PHPTek, I haven't heard any arguments *against" the terms "Veteran
release manager" and "Co-release managers". Those terms would also makes
it clear that
* the veteran need not be "hands-off", that can be decided by the RM team
* the veteran is clearly a veteran (from the name) rather than just
someone who doesn't do much ("hands-off") and you have to check the
policy to understand why
* the veteran is still involved in things, even if they are not making
the actual releases
I'm guilty of switching my vote twice already. I was, and still am, in
favour of the change.
At first I took for granted that the feedback about the "hands‑on /
hands‑off" terminology had been incorporated. When I realised it hadn’t,
I was a bit disappointed and changed my vote.
Earlier today Volker reached out and kindly asked why. We had a brief
chat, and I ended up deciding that it's not the end of the world if this
RFC passes with the current wording. It's still much better than the
alternative -- the RFC failing, delaying things further, or worse,
stopping progress on the topic altogether.
I'd also be very much in favour of a follow‑up RFC to improve the
terminology.
Cheers
--
Matteo Beccati
