On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 09:37:14 +0200 (CEST)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Derick Rethans) wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, Zeev Suraski wrote:
> 
> > So far, except for meaningless purism, I haven't seen a single real 
> > reason for the fact that a working application suddenly stopped 
> > working.
> 
> I'm quite tired of this purism argument. You seem to invoke that 
> whenever somebody wants to make some form of progress. 

Your definition of progress may be different than mine, why am I forced
to support yours?

> Now, besides the whining and bickering,

Are you trying again to define valid complaints as whining?

> if you have any idea on how to make things better, please step
> forward. I already spoke with the doc folks how to document all the
> timezones that we now support. 

I had better and safer solutions, you ignored my initial proposal to do
not touch the current code base and use ext/date with pecl/date. You
even moved your code to ext/date and replace all current
implementation, blocking any valid alternative.

Again and for the record in this thread, I told you and here many
times, the only safe way is to develop the new features in a separate
code base (ext/date was planned to be used for this exact purpose
before you decided to move your code there). A separate code base is
the only way to keep user codes working. Whether user codes were good
or bad is not relevant as they worked and there was not valid
alternative in the PHP releases.

As a side note, you should ban STFU, whining, and other related words
from your vocabulary, at least in the next 20 years. They do not have
their places here, not the way and where you use them.

Regards,

--Pierre

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