The problem of web hosting remains, and isn't easily resolved. We already saw what the situation is when it comes to web hosts and the distributed .ini files; it's much the same when it comes to extensions. The better hosts may well enable further extensions on request, but many won't - possibly because they don't know how, or because they're in turn relying on a distro that doesn't offer a wide range from PECL.

IMHO there needs to be some way to make recommendations to web hosts...

- Steph


I agree with Jani here. It's a bit of a catch-22 but putting more popular extensions into PECL should help.

-Andrei


On Jul 22, 2006, at 5:09 AM, Jani Taskinen wrote:


    Bullshit. PECL is just as good as "core".
    It just needs more marketing. One good way to sell it to people
    might be to put some most used extensions there. :)

    If some extension is useful and needed people WILL find it in  PECL.

    --Jani


On Sat, 22 Jul 2006, John Coggeshall wrote:

On Fri, 2006-07-21 at 23:48 +0200, Lukas Smith wrote:
EXPERIMENTAL is just a way to cover our asses against not being able to
break BC if we find out we screwed something up in a new extension.
Bringing something into core obviously gives us a larger testbed and so
new situations are likely to popup.

He has a point..While I understand the desire to move things out of
core, we don't have any reasonable facility to put things into  PECL and
be distributed to anywhere near the same number of people. Until we find
a way to get the general population to consider PECL at the same  level
they consider PHP, I don't see how we can ever really avoid putting
"experimental" code into core -- it's the only way it actually gets
tested and/or adopted on a wide scale.

John

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