On 18.07.2008, at 10:11, Pierre Joye wrote:
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Ulf Wendel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Lester Caine schrieb:
Ulf Wendel wrote:
If mysqlnd turns out to be stable enough during the PHP 5.3 test
phase,
PHP 5.3+ may use mysqlnd as a default. There is no need to
download an extra
library when using 5.3.
Lukas, this is not affecting PHP 5.3 as long as mysqlnd is
stable/fast/... enough to be used as a default.
BUT - does mysqlnd produce data in phpinfo() ? So when loaded by
default
you confuse end users when looking for problems on systems that do
not use
MySQL.
We discussed that earlier in the thread: there's no need to load
mysqlnd if
there's no mysql extension loaded and using it - BUG, though not a
high
priority one. Just like there is no need to load ext/pdo when no
pdo driver
gets loaded.
The question is also how much sense it makes. The main problem is the
dependency loading mechanism, which does not exist. That's the main
why PDO and MySqlnd can't be compiled as shared (or should not). If I
configure PHP without any mysql extension, does that mean that I will
never add one? I'm not sure but if we disable PDO and mysqlnd when no
driver are enabled at compile time, it means that I will have to
recompile PHP as soon as I like to use a pdo or mysqlnd driver. I will
let the RM decides :-D
It seems to me like in 99% of the cases on linux the initial install
of PHP will include PDO and MySQL (ok lets say 90% for MySQL and 99%
for PDO) intentionally anyways. For the rest they will be hand
compiling anyways on Linux. I guess this leaves the only issue being
the order in which the extensions get listed in the php.ini, right?
There I guess we should just try to provide a good error message, but
if we can't then the error message will likely soon plaster google/
yahoo with solutions (ideally our manual would be at the top).
For windows I feel that its mainly used for development, as such I
would rather want to see things compiled in to reduce trouble,
especially for novice users. For those users looking to get super
stream lined binaries, with the work by the windows team its more
feasible than ever to make your own binaries (or have someone else do
it for them).
regards,
Lukas Kahwe Smith
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