On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 6:48 PM, Anthony Ferrara <ircmax...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Zeev,
>
>>> Zeev, allow me to understand how this goes. Bob's discussions on the RFC
>>> started 2 days ago. Based on the current rules, the RFC can only go to
>>> vote
>>> after 2 weeks. That means in 12 days starting now.
>>>
>>> So we are either violating the RFC rules by pushing the vote tomorrow or
>>> we're delaying PHP7 for another 2 weeks maybe yet another TH RFC passes?
>>
>> Bob's RFC is effectively Andrea's v0.1 RFC which was discussed in detail and
>> introduced well over two weeks ago.
>> I hope we're not going to go into more and more extremes of playing a law
>> firm and not an OS project.
>
> We have minimum discussion periods for a reason. To allow people the
> time to review proposals as much as to discuss them.
>
> On the surface, yes, this looks like Andrea's 0.1 RFC. However, after
> looking at it, it's definitely different. There's a very significant
> behavior difference between the two:
>
> Andrea's RFC had the following wording:
>
>> The only exception to this is the handling of NULL: in order to be
>> consistent with our existing type hints for classes, callables and arrays,
>> NULL is not accepted by default, unless the parameter is explicitly given a
>> default value of NULL. This would work well with the draft Declaring
>> Nullable Types RFC.
>
> This proposal has a different behavior here. It explicitly allows
> nulls for types:
>
> function foo(int $abc) { var_dump($abc); }
>
> Unlike my proposal and any of Andrea's, calling foo(null) will be
> int(0) instead of an error.
>
> This is an important distinction as it basically undermines any
> attempt at a nullable RFC, since it makes primitives implicitly
> nullable.
>
> So it's not effectively the original proposal. It does differ in a
> very significant detail. This is why we have mandatory discussion
> periods. Not for "playing law firm" but for being fair to each other.
>
> Anthony.
>
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Hello,
good catch. Nullable RFC would IMHO help PHP, and underminding it isn't good.
Regards
Pavel Kouril
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