On 02/08/2015 20:00, Dor Tchizik wrote:
The mailinglist might be far from perfect (which some people also say
about PHP so there's a good match) but it is a well established way of
communication in the PHP-community. I strongly believe that it would be
counterproductive to change the way of communication of the core
contributors for the sake of probanly getting two or three more
contributors. At least as long as the alternative is at least as faulty as
the current way of communication.


What makes you think that two or three more contributors is what you'd get?
The nodejs org on GitHub is almost 400 strong.

I'm not sure what number you're quoting there, but in case you've missed references in passing, PHP does have a presence on GitHub: https://github.com/php/php-src That repo (which is a mirror of the official self-hosted git repo) has apparently been forked over two thousand times, and has 223 open and 1224 closed Pull Requests.

I don't know how to quantify the number of people using bugs.php.net, but it has a stats page which suggests it's not exactly quiet: https://bugs.php.net/stats.php (if you're superstitious, you may take it as an omen that the Dupe count is currently 666...)

My local copy of about 2 years of internals posts suggests, in a very unscientific way (counting the number of pages I have to scroll down when grouping messages by sender), that as many as 600 different senders have contributed to the list in that time. I have no idea what this proves, but I also have no idea what your 400 refers to.

So, other than your own dislike of e-mails, what makes you think that a large number of potential contributors are put off contributing to PHP by using a mailing list for policy discussions?

Regards,

--
Rowan Collins
[IMSoP]


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