On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 2:11 PM, Christoph M. Becker <cmbecke...@gmx.de> wrote:
> On 15.02.2017 at 13:52, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Dan Ackroyd [mailto:dan...@basereality.com] > >> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 8:22 PM > >> To: Pedro Magalhães <m...@pmmaga.net> > >> Cc: internals@lists.php.net > >> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][VOTE] Binary String Deprecation > >> > >> I thought this RFC was likely to pass easily. > >> > >> It's always slightly unfortunate when RFCs are either accepted or > rejected by > >> a small margin, particularly when there doesn't seem to have been any > >> voices against it. > >> > >> Please could anyone who voted no, illuminate the rest of us as to why > voting > >> no was the correct option? > > > > I can't speak for others, but for me, it's simply because there's no > reason to do it (remove it), while there may/might be a reason to keep it > going forward. Keeping it comes at zero cost, and if we ever do need a > binary string notation, it sounds more than likely that we'll pick this > one. I see no value at removing it even if there's a small chance we'll > need it again. > > For similar reasoning, I abstained from voting. Actually, I'm -0.1 on > the deprecation. > > -- > Christoph M. Becker > > Hi all, Thanks for contributing to the discussion. One week ago marked 10 years since the forward compatibility was introduced(5.2.1). This deprecation would allow us to remove them in the future if no implementation ever comes forward. If that implementation ever comes, we could still revert this. I think it's important to mention that this is not a removal, it's only the first step in that direction. I understand the reasoning that "it doesn't hurt". However, I would argue that for someone new to the language, this can potentially be confusing. On the type juggling page, the forward compatibility is mentioned but - AFAIK - nowhere else (also not on the page about the String type). Users are left on their one to figure it out. Searching for "php binary string" leads only to the pack/unpack pages and questions from confused users on StackOverflow. Given how long ago this was introduced, and how it still produces no effect, it seemed like a good time to start preparing for it's removal. Best regards, Pedro
