On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Davey Shafik <da...@php.net> wrote: > On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Walter Parker <walt...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 7:51 AM, Dan Ackroyd <dan...@basereality.com> >> wrote: >> >> > Hi O'Neil, >> > >> > On 3 October 2017 at 10:04, O'Neil Delpratt <on...@saxonica.com> wrote: >> > > Hi, >> > > >> > > We are considering submitting an RFC along the following lines and >> > welcome your comments: >> > > >> > > Enhancing the existing XSLTProcessor is not an option: it has fallen >> too >> > far behind for this to be viable. >> > >> > That's probably true. >> > >> > > Excelsior have a licensing scheme enabling the compiler to be used by >> > open source >> > > projects (see: https://www.excelsiorjet.com/free < >> > https://www.excelsiorjet.com/free>). >> > >> > I don't have the multiple hours available now to fully read through >> > and comprehend all the license information, however there are some red >> > flags from my initial reading: >> > >> > > Instead, we now offer free personal licenses for that Edition to all >> > prospects >> > > who opt in when evaluating Excelsior JET. >> > > .... >> > > Evaluate Excelsior JET and get a free Standard Edition license for >> your >> > personal use: >> > > ... >> > > If you do not wish to receive a free license, you may skip the >> > registration and >> > > download Excelsior JET Evaluation Packages anonymously. >> > >> > Having to register and opt in to obtain a license, seems like a problem. >> > >> > > Caveat #1: The Excelsior JET Runtime cannot be used in embedded >> systems >> > > due to a licensing restriction. >> > >> > That seems like a problem. >> > >> > > Caveat #2: The Standard Edition is essentially an entry‑level variant >> of >> > > the product, which means that: It is not available for OS X. >> > >> > That seems like a problem. >> > >> > With regards to the more technical aspects of the proposal. >> > >> > Can you say how much bigger including all of the relevant libraries >> > would make the PHP executable? Some people have already expressed >> > concern at how large the default PHP executable has become. >> > >> > What I would suggest is, if you think the license issues can be >> > resolved, to apply for a PECL account at http://pecl.php.net/ and >> > start having people to start using the extension through there. >> > >> > Having a quick look at the extension source code, I get the impression >> > that having more people use it could result in lots of small >> > refinements to the implementation that should be done before the >> > extension was ready to bring into PHP core. >> > >> > cheers >> > Dan >> > Ack >> > >> > -- >> > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List >> > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >> > >> > >> From the ExcelsiorJet FAQ Page: >> Is the Excelsior JET license GPL-compatible? >> <https://www.excelsiorjet.com/free#> >> >> Unfortunately, no. Excelsior JET includes the Java SE API source code >> licensed from Oracle under OCSL Commercial Use license, which is not >> GPL-compatible. So even releasing our own code under the GPL won't help. >> LGPL is fine however. >> >> We suggest you to release the natively compiled binary under a different >> license, pointing out that the source code is available under the GPL. You >> would however need the consent of all contributors. >> Does new code to the core have to be GPL-compatible? Or has it changed to >> LGPL. This may be a showstopper. >> >> Also, the fact it only generates 32-bit code may also be a non starter, as >> lots of Linux & BSD systems are now running 64-bit as the default/common >> install. >> >> >> Walter >> > > You seem to be mistaken in thinking the PHP project is GPL licensed. It is > in fact licensed under the PHP License[1], and AFAIK does not allow > GPL-licensed in core (LGPL is fine)… > > [1] http://php.net/license/3_0.txt >
Sorry, my mistake. I didn't notice when PHP changed from GPL style to BSD style. I withdraw my comments on the the GPL issue. Walter -- The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding. -- Justice Louis D. Brandeis
