> On Oct 9, 2019, at 12:58 PM, Larry Garfield <la...@garfieldtech.com> wrote:
> And developing such guidelines absolutely positively cannot happen on a 
> public asynchronous mailing list.  I've been through such processes enough 
> times to know that is the worst possible way to do it.

When I first saw this email I thought you were proposing IRL "camp" ala a 
symposium/convention/assembly where "delegates" from the internals@ list were 
to get together face-to-face and collaborate on moving PHP forward.  I think 
people might be a lot more willing to work together for mutual benefit if they 
were working in the same room rather than on their own in front of their 
keyboards.

Maybe that would be a way to move forward with some of the log jams here?  
Basically an initial meeting and then a plan to do it periodically in the 
future (annual or bi-annual?)

-Mike

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