@Mike Schinkel, a middle ground about/with silliness? there is none, for people in their right mind; should people really find/force themselves into conciliation about non-sense? I don't think so and mostly; I have no say about deprecating that; but is that a priority? does it harm anyone? someone have died from backtick infection, it must be according to some? and so on. Don't see where there is a heated topic; solely a reminder about reality and facts.
Regards. On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 1:12 PM Mike Schinkel <m...@newclarity.net> wrote: > My, my this is a heated topic. > > I am commenting in part because I do not have a dog in this hunt. I am > okay leaving it, I am okay if it is deprecated. There are other things for > PHP that I care far more about than this RFC. So... > > I am wondering if everyone participating in this discussion would be > willing to ask themselves "Is there any middle ground where I can respond > in a way that is win-win for everyone involved?" rather than retreating to > each other's respective corners and fighting as if to the death? > > If I did not know better I would think this group was filled with members > of the US Congress because of the unwillingness to compromise and seek > common ground. > > For example, would those who oppose this RFC change to support it if this > was changed from: > > > Although the deprecation notice itself will carry no backwards > > > compatibility changes, this RFC is written with the intent that the > > > backtick operator would eventually be removed in a later version > > > To this?: > > The deprecation notice will carry no backwards compatibility changes. > In addition this RFC is explicitly not recommending removal of the > backtick operator in a later version. To remove it — if ever desired — > will require an additional RFC to be passed. > > > Maybe the above resolves the objections against this RFC? Or maybe the > above makes it useless in the minds of those who want to get rid of > backtick? But this specific FRC does not matter to me > > The point however, is can we not work to some form of happy medium rather > than everyone fighting a zero sum game? > > -Mike > #jmtcw