Hi Anders,

About the proposition:

I think the main problem of 3D Secure is that
it's only an authentication mechanism and not
a payment protocol at all.
Compared to SET, the seperation auf authentication
mechanism and payment protocol is a huge step back.

About core technology:

it's interresting that in Jannuary, we had a similar idea.
However, we didn't think that the customer wants to remember
the issuer's domain, so we proposed a lookup mechanism 
(similar to DNS) mapping the user's eMail adress to the
domain of his/her issuing bank.

About the idea:

Great approach!

Yours,

Sebastian Kübeck
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Anders Rundgren wrote:
> 
> Dear e-Payers,
> 
> A SUCCESSOR TO 3D SECURE
> Working with state-of-the-art e-commerce solutions and standards
> based on Web Services, I see an opportunity to create a system that
> would inherit the core 3D Secure idea (the Issuer doing the actual
> payment-transaction), but among many things, offering a better
> "user experience" by instead of asking for credit card data, ask the
> user to input the issuer's domain name.  Like "bigbank.com".
> This makes even more sense when /if cards get fully virtual, as
> then there will be no credit-cards to keep in your purse anymore,
> or for shared company-cards, as memorizing huge non-static
> numbers is much harder than just remembering the name of a bank.
> A further advantage is that almost the entire payment-process
> can GUI-wise be performed in the bank (like card selection),
> rather than by more or less arbitrary merchant-defined
> applications.
> 
> THE PROPOSITION
> I'm interested in forming a vendor-neutral consortium for
> creating a 3D Secure replacement based on other principles,
> that would not only support credit-card transactions for *any*
> brand, but local account-to-account transaction-schemes as
> well.  This would make sense for both merchants, and banks, that
> probably are less than happy about the current situation, with
> solutions that are "all over the map" for no apparent reason, but
> the competition between different card-brands and proprietary
> payment-schemes.   A successor of 3D Secure should be neutral,
> distributed, and locally adaptable to become the norm.  OASIS-
> open is a possible place for hosting such a project.
> 
> THE CORE TECHNOLOGY
> As far as I understand. 3D Secure relies on a VISA directory to
> map a PAN-code to an issuer URL, but by using Web Services,
> Web Service Discovery, and DNS SRV records, you can achieve
> the same (or actually considerably better), functionality for the
> user as described in the first section.  I.e. using DNS which is
> already globally available, and completely decentralized, seems
> like a much better idea than creating brand-specific, centrally
> maintained, one-function-directories.
> For those who are deeply into technology and want to know
> even more about the anticipated principles behind the proposed
> 3D Secure replacement, the following URL shows a B2B-
> scenario, that does practically the same thing for the creation
> of purchase orders (with the exception that DNS SRV-records
> were not used):
>   http://www.x-obi.com/OBI400/OBI4-sc-New-Customer-Order.doc
> I.e. you should think of the buying organization as an Issuer and
> the purchase order a signed payment transaction.  As you may note,
> the number of [server] steps are maybe double that of 3D Secure,
> but our experience with the OBI Express B2B-standard-to-be,
>  (can be tested at  https://buyer.x-obi.com/BuyerASP/buyer )
> indicates that this is no longer a problem.  For the end-users things
> remain as simple as possible.
> 
> BE MOBILE AS WELL
> The proposed system is targeted to be equally suitable for mobile
> e-payments as well, regardless if the mobile user performs a local
> transaction, or a remote ditto.
> 
> Any thoughts on this?
> 
> Regards
> Anders Rundgren
> CEO X-OBI
> 
> +46 70 - 627 74 37

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Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Sebastian Kübeck
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QENTA paymentsolutions      sebastian kübeck
www.qenta.com               [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tel: +43 316 81 36 81-0     fax: +43 316 81 36 81-20

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