On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:01:27 -0000, Tuomo Valkonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Oh - then how come I've never had any problems with it?
Maybe you've stuck to a few well-behaved applications in tiled
mode.
Yes I feel that floating windows are rather counter to the concept of ion - but even so, that's quite different from "it can't work". Although my applications are anything but well behaved. Fortunately vncviewer (the worst culprit in my mind) finds it hard to jump across the screens (even under xinerama) so stays jumping to the last selected frame on the one screen, allowing me to work on this one :)

I'm guessing you're agnostic since you seem to detest religion so much.
I'm just godless. (Good you didn't think of me as an atheist.)
Atheism is a faith position - you seemed to eschew that vehemently, but at least you're consistent. (even if you are wrong ;-p )

Speaking of which, I recently watched the latest diatribe by Richard
Dawkins and, well, that guy chants "Science and Reason" more frequently
and with more fervor than US propaganda goes on about "Freedom and
Democracy".
Ah - the athiest who claims he has no faith. He chants most things more frequently than anyone - he's probably figured out that he is in a faith position and can't work out how to back down... </off topic>

Subjectivity is the key. But the practises of the FOSS herd do not
support subjective tastes.
Of course not - though shalt be clones.
Seriously - I agree with you, but as the whole thing doesn't support abstractions of context from presentation we have to work with what we have (unless you want to fork/reimplement the whole shooting match) That's one of the problems with any long project. Abstraction is easy in short term tightly defined projects.
Or with hindsight.
But by then it's expensive.

Cryptic config is a pain wherever it is, but it's not as if the ion config file is stable in syntax.
You're talking about software in development stage.
Yep - if the last "stable" release you made was over three years ago.
There is a balance to be had between stability and frequency. I've never installed ion2, because I'd never actually seen it. I spotted ion3 on a colleagues screen and asked what it was. I've not gone back, because ion3 is actually pretty stable - for everything I do. I can't imagine there are many situations where it's horribly unstable/unusable, and for those ion2 may well cater. You then get the opportunity for more testing and feedback on potential useful features.

Modern technology mostly sucks.
Except vacuum cleaners I presume.
They have the unfortunate tendency to blow.
See - you do have a sense of humour :) I knew it was there somewhere! :-D

John

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John Robson

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