Jaehong,
If the CA layer can be used independently, is it documented?
Pat

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Subject: Re: [dev] CAGetNetworkInformation() function does not work




John Light,

As MJ mentioned, CA and RI are separate layer and can be used independently.

I do not expect the CA "API" to disappear shortly.



Jaehong Jo

Samsung OIC Development



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Date : 2015-07-22 14:05 (GMT+09:00)

Title : Re: [dev] CAGetNetworkInformation() function does not work



Hi, John.



We are not sure why you are saying unwise and unnecessary.

It?s up to the API user to use any internal APIs.

Currently Routing manager requires the GertNetworkInformation to know the 
available networks and route the packet.

The main subject of the mail is because of your changes, this API is not 
working.

Instead of resolving, questioning the API usability is unreasonable.

As its been reproduced because of your changes, we are trying get clarification.

If you cannot modify, please let us know.

Only Application devlopers required to use C or C++ APIs.

Any feature contributors can use internal APIs and any feature can have unit 
test cases and samples to make sure all units are functional.

If you feel an internal API is unnecessary, please raise the issue during the 
biweekly CC or through the dev-mailing list before you changes.



Thanks.

Best Regards,

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MyeongGi Jeong

Senior Engineer, Software Architect

Software R&D Center, Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd.

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Date : 2015-07-22 00:09 (GMT+09:00)

Title : Re: [dev] CAGetNetworkInformation() function does not work


Hyuna Jo,
Please orient the tests to the two IoTivity APIs: C and C++.  The stack should 
not add code just for obsolete unit tests.  We must drive the stack to smaller 
and smaller form factors, eliminating unnecessary code.  The request you make 
does not generalize, as the IP Adapter network interface code uses mechanisms 
such as SIOCGIFCONF which do not supply equivalent IPv6 addresses.  Thus we 
need to generalize the testing to support this.  As you suggest, the tests can 
be done using discovery, which allows testing of the discovery mechanism as 
well.
I believe it is unnecessary and unwise to continue thinking of the CA as a 
separate API.  Our path to simplification will necessarily involve higher 
integration between the CA and RI layers, and I expect the CA ?API? to 
disappear shortly.  So I don?t think adding code whose only purpose is to 
enable testing is appropriate.
John Light
Intel OTC OIC Development

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Subject: RE: [dev] CAGetNetworkInformation() function does not work


Hi, John



CA Sample was implemented to test CA API directly.
we have to know the ip address and port number of the remote device to create 
CAEndpoint_t object.
and we used CAGetNetworkInformation() function to get local network information.
of course we can get network information of remote device through multicast 
message.
But that process is unnecessary in CA sample. We should test all CA API 
directly.
In addition, multicast is not supported on arduino platform. because arduino 
wifi shield can have one connection.
so we cannot test all CA API including CASendRequest, CASendResponse, 
CASendNotification, if there is no network information.
Therefore, more network information should be provided by using 
CAGetNetworkInformation() function.



Regards,
Hyuna Jo





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Date : 2015-07-21 00:51 (GMT+09:00)

Title : RE: [dev] CAGetNetworkInformation() function does not work


Hyuna Jo,
The only API?s I?m familiar with are the IoTivity C API and the IoTivity C++ 
API.  The Connectivity Abstraction is an implementation detail of the C stack.  
Since CAGetNetworkInformation doesn?t currently support any features at the C 
or C++ API level, it is low priority.  I intended for it to continue working, 
as it may be useful in the future, but it is possible that it may not work as 
it did before.
Currently, the only anticipated use for CAGetNetworkInformation is to allow 
application selection of interfaces for multicasting.  For that use, only the 
information provided is necessary.  If you feel more information is needed for 
some other purpose, please describe the intended use case.
I know the original CAGetNetworkInformation provided more information, but that 
information wasn?t used anywhere except in unit tests of the function.  The 
simplified IP adapter doesn?t need the extra information, so it is not 
currently provided.  When you justify the additional information with a valid 
use case, additional information can be provided.  In the meantime, let?s work 
at making IoTivity smaller and easier to maintain.
John Light
Intel OTC OIC Development

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Subject: [dev] CAGetNetworkInformation() function does not work


Hi, John Light



I have taken the latest master code but I have some problems runnings the CA 
sample.
I'm trying to use CAGetNetworkInformation() function to get local network 
information.
but it looks like that it does not work well.
I cannot get the ip address and port information from CAGetNetworkInformation 
function.
currently, CAGetNetworkInformation function returns network interface name only.
why did you change the code to return interface name instead of address and 
fixed the port number with 0?
Without the ip address and port number information, ca sample can not be 
executed well on Linux/Tizen/Android/Arduino platform.
Please help me to resolve this issues.

Regards,
Hyuna Jo
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