From: Einar Stefferud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Granted that some problems with the act should be carefully examined and then resolved!...
But, on the other side, is it possible that some of the criticism is off the mark. With so many people just spewing hate for Bush, because he is not a democrat or is not left winged enough, or whatever, it seems very likely that many of them have not even read the act or checked the "facts" they shout.
I vividly recall that Dave once sent a message to IP that pointed out that there is, by the dictionary definition, such a thing as a false fact. I believe that the string "false fact" was in the subject.
I cannot find that message in my trove of IP stuff, but I recall it was something like "A FACT is a widely believed statement"...
Which suggests that what is often called a fact, is only a widely believed assumption or opinion.
Much of what I see about the Patriot Act is what I claim is opinion, or at most unproven allegations.
I do not know how to get the discussion to settle down and address true facts.
Cheers...\Stef
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