On Thu, 18 May 2006, Phil Dibowitz wrote:


On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 05:01:12PM -0400, Jim Sandoz wrote:
a b wrote:
Exactly. I have often wondered about this as well.  What is the
advantage of ripping out IPF to be on the bleeding edge? I'd really
like to know.
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is sun's version "good enough" for production use?  maybe for some.
is it optimal?  no.
are there new, unfound bugs in the "latest" ipf?  probably.

Same reason the first thing anyone who deals with Solaris does is install the 
GNU utilities and completely ignore the Solaris utilities. ;)

Phil,
   I go one better than that -- I never install them in the first place.
I took the trouble to "tune" my Solaris 10 Jumpstart Profile so that
a lot of drek never gets installed, eg:

cluster SUNWCsndm   delete  # sendmail
cluster SUNWCgcc    delete  # gnu C
cluster SUNWCnet    delete  # UUCP
cluster SUNWCown    delete  # openwindows
cluster SUNWCperl   delete  # Sun perl
package SUNWsfinf   delete  # GNU info pages

and there's a lot of other clusters and packages I don't install either
(like mozilla, staroffice, CDE, GNOME, UUCP, evolution, Asian fonts).
I'm running servers -- not desktop platforms, so I don't need them.

Then I install the latest public-domain perl, gcc, and sendmail.
Some of the items like GNU stuff get installed into a /usr/local which is
then NFS automounted to all other systems.

Trimming and tuning my S10 Jumpstart Profile really reduced the footprint
of Solaris 10, cut my Jumpstart times in half, reduced backup times, saved
disk, reduced the number of patch installs.

A final gripe...  Now that the Studio 11 compiler is free, why doesn't Sun
just include it as part of the regular OS DVD?

But we are off-topic now...

Jeff Earickson
Colby College

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