Doug:

Here is another interesting link that highlights user groups for blind folks --

<http://svan.ca/blog/2012/blind/>

Best wishes,
Clint

On Jun 3, 2012, at 7:16 PM, Clinton MacDonald wrote:

> Doug:
> 
> Try this for a flavor (its a video, but you probably will get a *better* feel 
> for it from the audio) --
> 
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B35Hmeh9qAg>
> 
> Best wishes,
> Clint
> 
> On Jun 3, 2012, at 7:11 PM, Doug Parisian wrote:
> 
>> Thanks, I rather suspect this might be a numbers issue.  Perhaps my 
>> submission tonight will stimulate some responses during the week.  Maybe 
>> this a bug which should be addressed?  I understand why this is done but if 
>> apple is going to show us blind folks the numbers keyboard, they might add a 
>> choice in the set-up menus, probably under Voiceover, to allow or disallow 
>> full speech so that one can more easily negotiate whatever screens are 
>> available during a phone call from start to finish.
>> 
>> Yes indeed, I'll check out the link you offered.
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clinton MacDonald" 
>> <[email protected]>
>> To: "iPhone Talk" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 7:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: Hearing Voiceover After Answering
>> 
>>> Doug:
>>> 
>>> On Jun 3, 2012, at 6:40 PM, Doug Parisian wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Since I have received no response to the below forwarded message, I can 
>>>> either assume that the listers assumed it was answered, or that my 
>>>> question was far too stupid for a response.
>>> 
>>> The simpler hypothesis is that this is a very low volume mailing list and 
>>> you caught us on a weekend. :-)
>>> 
>>> It is also likely that no one knows the answer to your question (sorry, I 
>>> certainly don't!).
>>> 
>>> However, you might consider subscribing to the NosillaCast podcast, 
>>> available for free through the iTunes Store.
>>> 
>>> <http://www.podfeet.com/wordpress/>
>>> <http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=81677867>
>>> 
>>> Allison Sheridan, though sighted herself, has a large listenership of 
>>> sight-impaired folks and she often addresses blind and deaf issues. Search 
>>> through her back catalog for specific product reviews and discussions that 
>>> you might find useful. The podcast is also generally fun for sighted 
>>> listeners (for example, she covers Mac-related security and photography 
>>> topics).
>>> 
>>> Good luck!
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Clint
>>> 
>>>> So, in case neither was the case, or one or the other, I'm trying for the 
>>>> second and final time.  Any help would be muchly appreciated!
>>>> I've gone both through the manual and the menus without satisfaction; 
>>>> maybe I can't see the forest for the trees?
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Parisian" <[email protected]>
>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 11:08 AM
>>>> Subject: Hearing Voiceover After Answering
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Well, I finally worked out how to answer my phone consistently and 
>>>>> reliably, I think!
>>>>> 
>>>>> The problem is that, though the Voiceover feature lands one on the 
>>>>> keyboard answering, I can't really hear it.  I suppose this is a feature 
>>>>> gone a little wrong since, if one can't hear any screen prompts, or make 
>>>>> it so such is possible, then what is the point?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Doug: My brain and scrambled eggs have something in common--GUESS!


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