Ryan, 

What didn't work about the scroll divs?  The scrolling or the ability to
keep a button bar at the bottom?  Or both?

I just reworked my layout and ran down to the Apple store and verified that
stacking three fixed height divs on top of one another with the middle div
also set to overflow:auto will two-finger scroll the middle div just fine,
leaving me a static header & footer that don't scroll off the screen.  This
was without setting CSS position values.

To get the Javascript scrollTo(0,1) to cause the address bar to go away, the
page needs to be at least 1 pixel taller than the available screen height.
So in portrait mode, my stacked divs total 417px in height.  (screen height
= 416px when address bar is hidden).  When my total height was exactly
416px, then the scrollTo(0,1) didn't make the address bar go away and my
bottom div was too far down off the screen to be seen.

Here's my three divs:
height:43px
height:334px;overflow:auto
height:40px.  

I was even able to use some scriptaculous/prototype effects to extend my
header downwards, covering the content scrollable div and not moving the
footer div, to reveal my search field.

Now I know without a doubt I can make a side div for an alphabet.  I will
have to replace my middle div with an iFrame so I will have a target for my
alphabet links.

-=Randy


On 7/28/07 6:30 PM, "RyanA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Nevermind... scroll divs do not work either.
> 
> On Jul 28, 9:10 pm, RyanA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> If want a button bar at the bottom of your web page, create 2 divs
>> with absolute positioning, then set one for your top div to allow
>> overflow (scolling div) and set the bottom div to a fix hieght with
>> your buttons.
>> 
>> -=Ryan
>> 
>> On Jul 28, 6:26 pm, Randy Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> What bug?  Safari in iPhone is a viewport, not a window with scrollbars,
>>> that slides up and down a static web page.  Fixed positioning won't work
>>> because as far as the page is concerned, the window has not been scrolled.
>>> In fact, fixed positioning does work.  Your element will render exactly at
>>> the pixel it was intended to be fixed at at, however, it will not 'stay' in
>>> place when flicking the screen because the browser has no idea the viewport
>>> is moving over the content.  The browser believes it is keeping the fixed
>>> element exactly where it's supposed to be because to it, the page hasn't
>>> moved.
>> 
>>> I was unaware this was considered a bug.  I think it sucks, but would seem
>>> to be by design.  It may change in the future, but for now it's behaving the
>>> way a viewport behaves, which is different than a window.
>> 
>>> If your web page is 3000 pixels high, Safari in iPhone will see the whole
>>> height as a singular, non-scrollable thing.  When zoomed in, it only shows a
>>> portion of that page.  When flicking the viewport up/down, it is not
>>> 'scrolling' as we are used to thinking of scrolling.
>> 
>>> Having said that, the only ways (that I've heard of so far) of fixing an
>>> element into place is by using frames, iframes, or a combination of fixed
>>> height divs, with the div you want to be scrollable being set to a specific
>>> height and its CSS set to include 'overflow:auto.'  That way, you can
>>> specify a fixed height header div, fixed height middle div set to
>>> overflow:auto, and a fixed height footer div where you would put your bottom
>>> nav buttons.  The combined height of all three divs must equal the total
>>> height available in the viewport.  Ie.is the top Safari bar present or not?
>>> Are you in portrait or landscape? etc.   The scrollable middle div will only
>>> be scrollable via a two-finger up/down movement and won't be 'flickable.'
>> 
>>> -=Randy
>> 
>>> On 7/28/07 9:28 AM, "Dan Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>>> The only suggestion I can make is to file a bug with Apple (join the
>>>> apple developer connection and use bugreport.apple.com, or just use
>>>> the form here:  <http://developer.apple.com/bugreporter/
>>>> bugrptform.html>) and wait for them to fix the problem.  They are
>>>> definitely aware of the issue but the more people who complain, the
>>>> higher they will prioritize a fix.
>> 
>>>> On Jul 28, 2007, at 8:53 AM, Chris Minks wrote:
>> 
>>>>> The site I am working on has a page like the contacts screen on the
>>>>> iPhone. It has a long list of items and at the base of the page it has
>>>>> a navigation bar (like the 5 buttons below your contacts). The problem
>>>>> is, you have to scroll the entire page to get to the nav. Any tips on
>>>>> how to keep the nav in place, while allowing the rest of the page to
>>>>> scroll?
>> 
>>>>> Thanks in advance- Hide quoted text -
>> 
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>> 
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> 
> 
> > 



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