Another thing that should be obvious is the skillset of your developers. I bet there are more java developers than php developers in the enterprise world.
I suspect Andy your more like me ,, not everyone is that way. When other girls were reading romances I was learning new languages, I think my first love was SmallTalk, it is such a nice well structured language I keep coming back to it, than there was forth and pascal and off course visual C and c#. I was working on mainframe cics and when the oportunity came to get into java I took it. (which is probably why I am employed and many of my friends arn't). So Php was just another scripting language to learn, But thats not true for everyone. And the company that doesn't take training and skillset of there employees into account when determining an environment is not going to succeed. I was suggesting getting a mac for two reasons, one I perfer that form of developement, but two if you are developing for a strictly apple platform like the iphone, which is squarely based in apple design methodoly and culture than you want a consistant environment. The iphone os is OS x , much the same OS X that is on the mac machines . Webclipping applications are not having much luck getting app store approval, so if you hope to make it through the approval process you better use native phone features other than just the web accessable sqllite database. I suspect this is not a concern of the original poster but I just thought I'd mention it. As for me, just to show how little a life I really have, I spend many a night now learning the ins and outs of Objective-C and sdk 3.0. On Mar 30, 2:03 pm, shelly <[email protected]> wrote: > Java is most of the time like breaking a fly > on a wheel. > > Trying to do anything but the simplest application in php and get good > performance over a simple java servlet is like trying to get to mars > for the last 50 years using chemical propulsion when you should be > investing r&d in nuclear or magnetoplasma drives. > > Both require a paradyme shift. > > Again php is fine for simple applications, but what if you need in > additon to performance, integration with webservices, enterprise level > security, and a huge number of different libraries to draw functions > from. From experience That just doesn't happen with php. Not that you > can't build some cool apps with php, its just I don't think i'd want > to do anything major with it. Just an opionion. > > But I agree, Most people start at the wrong phase. Gather you user > requirements, than assess your development/deployment environment > needs. > > On Mar 30, 1:45 pm, Andy Fuchs <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On 30.03.09 19:18, "shelly" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > unless your talking about the just released mini's, there's no way you > > > are going to do java development on a mini. > > > What do you mean? > > > > I'm not quite sure, why he should > > > use a JAVA framework? > > > That was my first thought too. Java is most of the time like breaking a fly > > on a wheel. > > So I'd rather investigate what's *really* required and then chose a tool > > that can do the job. I personally can hardly remember when I was in a > > situation, where JAVA was truly required. Mostly you can solve things using > > more light-weight tools as well. > > > > Your going to waste your time and money looking for a solution, when > > > you can get a few macs, use xcode, dashcode and some java framework. > > > ie jsf/icefaces and you open the possiblility of building hybrid > > > native apps too, with your java backend server feeding the native app, > > > or using comet to push new content to the app. > > > Or just use php, python or whatever is already on the machine ;-) > > > a.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iPhoneWebDev" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/iphonewebdev?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
