Brian Carpenter wrote:

> > Therefore it is pointless adding any semantics to the field, because
> > even if there, they can't (won't) be used.
> 
> But there's a recursion here. If you choose to believe port and protocol
> numbers, then all cheaters have to do is encapsulate their low priority
> packets in what look like VoIP packets and they will get real time
> performance. So whatever you choose to believe (except the destination
> address) could be bogus.
> 
> It turns out this doesn't matter. If somebody cheats in this way, they will
> pay the tariff for better QoS anyway - so why would the ISP care? I think
> that is the rebuttal to Steve Blake's argument - customers pay for the service they
> actually get, even if they are disguising their traffic. So sure they can cheat,
> but they are the losers.

To summarize: the customer will pay for higher CoS, and can either explicitly
"signal" the provider of the desired per-packet CoS (via the traffic class
or flow label fields), or let the provider infer the required per-packet CoS,
according to agreement, by looking at the protocol/ports and addresses.

Pushing protocol/port filtering to the provider is easier to deploy if I
trust the hosts in my network: I don't have to change the hosts or deploy
any Diffserv filtering/marking in my firewall.  If I trust the hosts to
put legitimate values in the flow label field, then I can just as easilly
trust them to put legitimate values in the traffic class field.  If I 
don't trust my hosts, then I need to enforce my Diffserv policy at the
firewall anyway.

So I think the argument boils down to whether 6 bits or 20 bits is enough
to convey application CoS preferences to the network.


Regards,

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Ericsson IP Infrastructure                  (919)472-9913


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