Brian E Carpenter writes:
 > Bob Hinden wrote:
 > > 
 > ..
 > > I think you are going a bit far to suggest that the fate of Diffserv
 > > depends on what the IPv6 w.g. does with the flow label field.  I suspect
 > > that Diffserv will live or die based on IPv4 usage.  Also, as IPv6 is
 > > deployed much of it will be initially carried over IPv4.  Any QoS solution
 > > that is going to be end-to-end will have to deal with a mix of native IPv6
 > > and IPv4/IPv6 headers.
 > 
 > Indeed, and since I don't quite see how IPSEC and NAT-PT are going to 
 > work together, the need that triggered this discussion (the need to
 > classify ESP packets in the middle of the Internet) really doesn't arise
 > in the case of translated packets. The concern is for a native IPv6 environment.

   The current proposed lossage involves ESP over UDP.
   In fact, that would probably provide you with what
   you need for both v4 and v6.

            Mike
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