It's short-sighted *not* to think of the 3G (or 4G) devices as routers
- we certainly need to recommend an approach for 3G that will also work for 4G
- in 4G, surely we will get a solution in which the cellular terminal will 
  act as a router for the personal area network

Just give them each a /64. Anything else is fiddling with details.

(Also see RFC 3177, section 3)

   Brian

"Hesham Soliman (ERA)" wrote:
> 
> John,
> 
> Please see my comment below.
> 
> => Actually it seems to me that the solution in the draft
> is a lot simpler than the one in the current 3GPP specs, but
> I might have missed something that concerned you ?
> 
> I agree. The solution in the draft is simpler however at the expense of what I view 
>as being a wasteful implementation. The draft proposes /64 being allocated to each 
>mobile device at a minimum and problably multiple /64s. This would be perfectly 
>acceptable if each mobile device was a mobile router supporting mobile subnets - but 
>in 3GPP that is not the case, a mobile device is a host and in many cases the hosts 
>may have very basic functionalities.
> 
> => I understand that it seems wasteful, however, according
> to the calculations in section 7.3.1 of the draft, we
> can afford to trade off the efficiency of address allocation
> for simplicity.
> To my knowledge, nothing in the 3GPP specifications prohibits
> a UE from being a router. Granted that currently, it seems
> that UEs are not heading that way, but why not have a
> mechanism that allows the UE to be a router _if_needed_
> in future.
> You could probably argue that there might be more efficient
> mechanisms, but when we consider the limitation of not wanting
> to significantly impact the 3GPP specs, this solution
> seems reasonable.
> 
> The working group should provide guidance on whether such a solution is something 
>they are comfortable with being recommended to 3GPP.
> 
> => That's what we�'re doing now :)
> 
> Regards,
> Hesham
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