On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> Pekka Savola wrote:
> > This is getting too implementation-specific, so I guess we had better kill
> > this thread, at least from here...
> 
> In fact, it would be a fundamental error to make protocol choices on the
> basis of perceived implementation glitches in today's popular operating
> systems. If we do the "right thing", one of these days the o/s will
> catch up.

My gripe with 6to4 is that it doesn't discuss the security issues
properly.  Everything about security is basically written (rather
concisely), in security considerations, like sugar coating on a cake.  

IMO, this is the wrong approach.  Security precautions should be discussed
and handled all the way through the specification (as with Shipworm), and
in security considerations, a summary and remainder threats discussed.  
Remainder threats are not covered there.

A few points from along the course of this thread:

- 6to4 does not require the checks and the threats are partially 
downplayed
- automatic tunneling does not discuss the checks even that much
- issues with multiple use of configured/autotunnel/6to4/... on the same 
box is not covered AFAIK anywhere
- should autotunnel be deprecated in a more official fashion?

> That doesn't deny the value of informational documents about today's
> implementation issues, especially security threats.

This is what my draft was/is partially meant to be; from my perspective (I
looked at Linux and KAME) it appeared that the checks had been implemented
only partially or not at all. Perhaps partly because they may not have
been understood to be important, or were difficult to implement because of 
the problem with multiple mechanisms.

-- 
Pekka Savola                 "Tell me of difficulties surmounted,
Netcore Oy                   not those you stumble over and fall"
Systems. Networks. Security.  -- Robert Jordan: A Crown of Swords

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