In your previous mail you wrote:

      Thank you. That was exactly what my point was.
      It's not just the reflector attack; the HAO
      nullifies all of the ingress filtering present
      on the net right now. That is distinctly worse
      than the status quo.
   
=> if "ingress filtering" is your message is anti-spoofing, I've answered
in a previous mail, so I consider this is the traditional ingress
filtering.
I believe you made a confusion between causes and effects. Ingress
filtering itself as no value, ingress filtering is a reply to
the source address spoofing threat which itself is only an option
to the DDoS threat. So the HAO problem is *only* the reflector attack
in this context (i.e. without anti-spoofing considerations).

Regards

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PS: we do no progress. After Monday I'll answer only comments to
my draft and threads proposed by the mobile-ip WG chairs.
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