As you point out uniqueness is not guaranteed, even for administrative
assignments. That is why RFC 2462 specifically states:
   The Duplicate Address Detection algorithm is
   performed on all addresses, independent of whether
   they are obtained via stateless or stateful
   autoconfiguration.

In a quick scan of 3041 I didn't see a reference to that, but it was a
fundemental assumption. If 3041 is updated it would probably help to
have a clear pointer back to 2462.

Tony


> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alexandru Petrescu
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 5:14 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Randomness and uniqueness
>
>
> Hi, there's currently a stream of proposals that put random bits on
> the Interface ID of an IPv6 address.  A background assumption is that
> the length of the Interface ID is 64 bits.  Another assumption is that
> since those ID's are generated from random sources, then their
> uniqueness is guaranteed for practical purposes.
>
> May I point out the following:
>
> -mathematical uniqueness is not guaranteed, there's already an
>  acknowledged collision probability.
> -to this probability one should add "administrative probability" where
>  same prefixes are accidentally assigned to two entities.
> -add implementation error probabilities, where a widespread
>  implementation uses a weak algorithm to generate that random numbers,
>  for example use as input time of day or the birth date, or short
>  passphrases, etc.
> -add the p in prf.
>
> The last three factors are very hard to quantify, and as such the
> overall probability of collision events also seems to me very hard to
> quantify.
>
> Just a thought, born out of contemplating randomness.  What do you
> think?
>
> Alex
>
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