>>>>> On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 08:17:06 +0900 (JST), 
>>>>> Keiichi SHIMA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>> 1. revise the mobility section to clarify issues about using
>> site-local addresses with mobile IPv6:
>> 
>> => I disagree with your solution because it takes more than a few line
>> to describe it (:-).
>> IMHO site-local addresses in a mobile IPv6 work well if only a
>> bidirectional tunnel is used between the mobile and its home agent.
>> Note there should be no penalty because by definition communications
>> in the same site are local, so the only difference with routing
>> optimization is the encapsulaion overhead.
>> Another important point is an equivalent way to describe this solution
>> is to say the bidirectional tunnel belongs to the home site.

> Are you saying that if we use a bi-directional tunneling, the off-site
> MN can comunicate with the CN that is in the home-site of the MN?

> If so, I disagree.  Consider the following condition.

> site A (fec0:0:0:100::/64): a home site of the MN
> site B (fec0:0:0:100::/64): a foreign site.

> If the MN moves from the site A to site B,

In this case, the mobile node is multi-sited.  The following figure
would depict the situation.

   +----------------------------------------+
   | +=====tunnel link====================+ |
   + |  +--------------------------------+| |
    \| /                                 || |
     I1                         +--------+| +--home site-----+
---- MN  ---foreign site--+     |         HA                 |
     I2                   |     |                            |

The MN has (conceptually) at least two interfaces; I1 and I2.  The
former (conceptually) belongs to the home site, and the latter of
course belongs to the foreign site.  The site-local home address
belongs to I1 (or perhaps a different interface, but it should belong
to the home site).

Just like other (normal) multi-sited nodes, the MN should always
disambiguate the site zone when sending a packet.  This applies
when the mobile node sends a packet to a node in the home site.

So,

> the MN cannot determine the
> direction to which it should send a packet destinated to
> fec0:0:0:100:1234:5678:9abc:def0.  The destination address can be both
> on the site A and the site B.

this is true, but cannot be a counter argument to what Francis said.
We should (and can) just disambiguate the site zone when sending.

BTW: It's still true that this type of situation is problematic.
For example,

- there is no way for the mobile to detect if the site A and the site
  B are same or different site (as I said in my first message in this
  thread).
- if the site A and the site B are different sites, the mobile node
  cannot communicate with a node in the site B using mobile IPv6.

                                        JINMEI, Tatuya
                                        Communication Platform Lab.
                                        Corporate R&D Center, Toshiba Corp.
                                        [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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