Thomas, >> Michel Py wrote: >> The point I am trying to make here is that we need a name or acronym >> for "ISPs that receive their addresses directly from a RIR". I am >> not saying that "TLA" is the best definition, but it does fit, >> regardless of allocation policies and aggregation policies.
> Thomas Narten wrote: > I think the registry terminology would be Local Internet Registry > (LIR). RIRs allocate address space to LIRs. I find the LIR definition below somehow inconsistent with RIR and NIR. If one was to follow the same logic, RIR, NIR and LIR would be similar (RIR assigns to NIR and LIR, NIR assigns to LIR) except for their scope: - RIR : ~continent. - NIR : nation. - LIR : city / metropolitan area. Indeed, the logical definition for a LIR should be something like "A provider-independent organization that assigns PI addresses to end-user sites". It does not mean that the actual function could not be performed by an ISP (as mentioned in 6.1.8 of [MHAP]), but the ISP should then be clearly wearing two different hats. I am not convinced that making an ISP a registry is a good idea in the sense that most people would want a registry to be independent from the operators. Which still leaves us (when RFC2373 is obsolete) with no replacement for "TLA" and "pTLA". I still don't understand what is wrong with these. Michel [MHAP] = http://arneill-py.sacramento.ca.us/ipv6mh/draft-py-mhap-01a.txt > From: > IPv6 Address Allocation and Assignment Global Policy > ftp://ftp.cs.duke.edu/pub/narten/global-ipv6-assign-2001-12-22.txt > 2.4. Regional Internet Registry (RIR) > Regional Internet Registries (RIRs) are established and authorized by > respective regional communities, and recognized by the IANA to serve > and represent large geographical regions. The primary role of RIRs > is to manage and distribute public Internet address space within > their respective regions. Currently, there are three RIRs: APNIC, > RIPE NCC, and ARIN. Preparations are being made to establish LACNIC > and AfriNIC. > 2.5. National Internet Registry (NIR) > A National Internet Registry (NIR) is an IR that primarily allocates > address space to its members, which are Local Internet Registries > (LIRs). NIR members are generally Internet Service Providers (ISPs) > organized at a national level. A NIR is constituted from ISPs, but > the NIR itself does not function as an ISP. NIRs are expected to > remain neutral to the interests of ISPs of their constituency. NIRs > exist mostly in the Asia Pacific Region. > 2.6. Local Internet Registry (LIR) > A Local Internet Registry (LIR) is an IR that primarily assigns > address space to the users of the network services that it provides. > LIRs are generally ISPs, whose customers are primarily end users and > possibly other ISPs. -------------------------------------------------------------------- IETF IPng Working Group Mailing List IPng Home Page: http://playground.sun.com/ipng FTP archive: ftp://playground.sun.com/pub/ipng Direct all administrative requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------
