>> Michel Py wrote: >> I find the LIR definition below somehow inconsistent with RIR and NIR. > Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: > Nobody ever said the universe is consistent.
Definitely not. Nevertheless, more consistency has never hurt any network I have seen. >> - RIR : ~continent. >> - NIR : nation. >> - LIR : city / metropolitan area. > Why would you need three levels of bureaucracy for this? Because it is likely to be easier to deal with a small local registry that speaks the same language than a huge multi-continent one. >> Indeed, the logical definition for a LIR should be something like "A >> provider-independent organization that assigns PI addresses to end-user >> sites". > This is obviously not how things work: that would make aggregation > impossible. I don't see why. The only reason behind geographical PI addresses is that they can be geographically aggregated. >> It does not mean that the actual function could not be performed >> by an ISP (as mentioned in 6.1.8 of [MHAP]), but the ISP should then be >> clearly wearing two different hats. I am not convinced that making an >> ISP a registry is a good idea in the sense that most people would want a >> registry to be independent from the operators. > People want to get addresses with no hassle. Getting them from your ISP is > the least amount of hassle possible. Getting PI addresses and then get an > ISP to route them for you is more work for everyone. You are making my point. However, I think that a) the provider's PA addresses and b) the customers geo PI addresses assigned by a registry are two different things (even if the registry function is actually manned by the customer's provider(s)). >> Which still leaves us (when RFC2373 is obsolete) with no replacement for >> "TLA" and "pTLA". I still don't understand what is wrong with these. > As a bystander, it seems to me too many people want their own address > space so the whole aggregation idea doesn't work. Again, it works with geographically aggregatable addresses, and the point I was trying to make is that "Local Internet Registry" seemed a good term (consistent with RIR and LIR) to describe the authority that allocates geo PI addresses to sites, with a strong likeliness that the function will be delegated to one of the ISPs servicing that area. Michel. -------------------------------------------------------------------- IETF IPng Working Group Mailing List IPng Home Page: http://playground.sun.com/ipng FTP archive: ftp://playground.sun.com/pub/ipng Direct all administrative requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------
