On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 02:34:59AM -0400, Bound, Jim wrote:
> From: Nick 'Sharkey' Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > > Bound, Jim wrote:
> > > 
> > > None of us working on this are even clear layer 3 handover will ever
> > > work?  Not sure if that matters does it?  Are we talking about the
> > > future?
> 
> > We're pretty clear on this: we've tested it.
> 
> Have you tested hmipv6 to the scale that mobility operator working with
> ISPs can cover the entire metropolis of L.A.?  

To clarify: we've been doing some work to identify and isolate
the causes of L3 handover delays, and they each seem solvable
by one means or another.

For example, hmipv6 offers one possible way of eliminating the RTT
delay caused by sending BUs. In its current form, it probably
isn't scalable to that level, but sadly I don't have a megapolis
to test it with -- I'm a research engineer not a product engineer :-)

Actually, JinHyeock reminded me that I'd forgotten to mention
the Movement Detection Delay ... we've been tackling that
with inter-layer signalling to prompt router solicitations.

> No one has deployed layer 3 in production environment I am aware of?
> Nor would I trust it yet simply because of this mail discussion.

Ummm ... I hope it isn't my Optimism which has caused your 
concerns ... although if you've got technical comments or
concerns re: my draft I'd love to hear them.  It is, after
all, a work in progress.

The Optimistic DAD thing comes about because I thought
the FH stuff was getting a bit theoretical and I felt that a
set of small, easily implemented patches, one per cause of
L3 handover delay, would be a good way to move forward in the
short term.

cheers,
-----Nick
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