If I could sleep assured that site-locals would not be used for any other network than networks not connected to global Internets, I would be all for this. What still have me really worried is that there is no way to enforce this, and it is just inviting NATv6.

In that case Brians wording will just help get the document published and end the discussion without anyone having gained anything.

Then again, there is no way we can stop people from doing NAT even with global addresses....

I guess I am for this proposal as well then...

- kurtis -


On onsdag, nov 13, 2002, at 10:35 Europe/Stockholm, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:

I think Brian's proposal, if adopted, makes my worry about site-locals inducing complexity in naming lookup mechanisms go away (naming mechanisms for disconnected networks have to be different from those for connected networks anyway).

So you can count me as supporting the proposal.

That said, I also think that writing down (some of) the arguments on the issue in permanent form would be a good idea...... and there are a few devils-in-the-details having to do with the transition between connectedness and disconnectedness, which also could use some words-on-electrons.

But this resolution seems basically right to me.

Harald

--On tirsdag, november 12, 2002 13:53:00 +0100 Brian E Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Unfortunately it's too late to catch the addressing architecture
document unless we recall it from the RFC Editor and cycle it
through the IESG again. But I propose that we do exactly that,
in order to change the following paragraph in section 2.5.6:

Current text:

Site-local addresses are designed to be used for addressing inside of
a site without the need for a global prefix. Although a subnet ID
may be up to 54-bits long, it is expected that globally-connected
sites will use the same subnet IDs for site-local and global
prefixes.
Proposed new text:

Site-local addresses are designed to be used for addressing inside of
a site which is not connected to the Internet and therefore does not
need a global prefix. They must not be used for a site that is
connected to the Internet. Using site-local addresses, a subnet ID may
be up to 54-bits long, but it is recommended to use at most 16-bit
subnet IDs, for convenience if the site is later connected to the
Internet using a global prefix.

Otherwise, we will need a whole new RFC just for this paragraph.

Alternatively, we could spend the next 5 years discussing the
unnecessary complexities of using site-locals on connected sites.

Brian
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