On 28 Nov 2002, Mark Smith wrote:
> On Wed, 2002-11-27 at 23:49, Kurt Erik Lindqvist wrote:
> > > Maybe leaked routes in the Internet eg 10/8 aren't so much that common,
> > > it's just that they are very prominent when they occur, because you 
> > > know
> > > that you shouldn't be seeing them.
> > >
> > 
> > I thought that they where leaked more or less every week...at least 
> > that is my experience.
> > 
> 
> My experience is possibly somewhat limited, I made the statement based
> on :
> 
> 1) the default ACLs and route filters for the rather large ISP I used to
> work for. Unfortunately I don't get a chance to work in the core of that
> network, so I'm making a judgement on what was supposed to be the
> practice rather than reality.
> 
> 2) I logged into router-server.cerf.net, couldn't find any network 10/8
> in the bgp and route tables, looked at their incoming BGP route filters,
> they weren't filtering for it, so their upstream ASs looked to be
> filtering it.
> 
> I was mostly wondering if people were over estimating the occurance of
> RFC1918 route leaks, purely because "they stick out like a saw thumb".
> 
> With the RFC1918 leaks you see, do they disappear pretty quickly after
> they appear, indicating somebody took action to stop the leak ? It would
> also be interesting to see if the origin AS of these RFC1918 leaks is
> one of the private ones.
> 
> ps, we can take this off-ML if people don't think it is relevant to
> IPv6.

I think what was meant was that 10/8 addresses leak as _source_ addresses, 
which is about equally bad.

We have filters on our border, and the counter keeps ticking quite a bit..

-- 
Pekka Savola                 "Tell me of difficulties surmounted,
Netcore Oy                   not those you stumble over and fall"
Systems. Networks. Security.  -- Robert Jordan: A Crown of Swords

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