=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Patrik_F=E4ltstr=F6m?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

|On l�rdag, apr 5, 2003, at 00:37 Europe/Stockholm, Dan Lanciani wrote:
|
|> Great.  Let's make this PI space available FIRST and THEN we can get 
|> rid
|> of site-locals with little trouble.
|>
|> |Yes, aggregation can not happen,
|> |but, so what? I claim the number of routes today is still manageable,
|> |and the _real_ problem is that an IP address is both for addressing 
|> and
|> |routing.
|>
|> Great.  Let's work on that problem now.
|
|Yes, of course we should. But, I think we can not get real force behind 
|such work before we _first_ agree Site Local is not solving this 
|problem, and we therefore agree Site Local should go away.

Please help me to understand something.  I have been trying to get people to
look at the portable identifier/routing problem for _years_.  Such attempts
have been consistently shot down, often on grounds similar to the ones being
used to attack site-locals, e.g., that we don't understand the problem well
enough to even know whether research or engineering is required.  (And no,
I don't really understand why this--even if true--is a reason to not look
at a problem.  But that's a different question.)  In fact, I believe some
of the same people who want to deprecate site-locals are making the same
arguments they used against solving the routing problem.  Now, in all those
years, nobody ever raised the claim that site-locals were an obstacle to
working on the routing problem.  Explain two things:

-When (and how) did site-locals become the main obstacle standing in the
way of solving the routing/identifier problem?

-When (and how) did all the other reasons that have been advanced to stymie
any work on the routing/identifier problem evaporate?

                                Dan Lanciani
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