Interesting point. Feel free to look up 192.102.91.0. It is being NAT'ed for a client of mine. I've not convinced them yet to route it with a real firewall to their isp ;-( -- Todd Fries .. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Free Daemon Consulting, LLC Land: 405-748-4596 http://FreeDaemonConsulting.com Mobile: 405-203-6124 "..in support of free software solutions." Key fingerprint: 37E7 D3EB 74D0 8D66 A68D B866 0326 204E 3F42 004A Key: http://todd.fries.net/pgp.txt (last updated 2003/03/13 07:14:10) Penned by Michel Py on Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 11:26:32AM -0700, we have: | Eliot, | | > Eliot Lear wrote: | > I guess my concern is that ISPs end up routing the address | > space in Bob's proposal and that we'll have another PI problem. | > So while there's nothing wrong with Bob's proposal in theory | > (indeed I prefer it vastly to the other SL approaches), if | > customers believe they have stable addresses we could end up | > right back where we were in the early '90s. I don't see this | > happening for DSL customers but it could happenfor medium to | > large size businesses who have the power of the purse. | | I raised this very issue a long time ago, but that is not the worst | problem we have. Finish the reasoning down that same path: | | - Sites will get unaggregatable portable /48s. | - Their wallet will get them routed. | - Everyone is happy, no renumbering issues, multihoming is possible. | | So, everyone will spend 5 bucks registering their /48, some (the ones | that currently have an AS or will request one) will actually announce | it, and we're all fat and happy. Until the GRT reaches 10k (and probably | until it reaches 50k by the time that happens given better hardware) it | won't be a concern. | | What happens next is more interesting. Re-using some wording I have read | yesterday, this will become a self-regulating system, meaning that only | those who can afford it will be able to announce their /48 after some | time. | | The question is: in 5 or 10 years, what are these people that are | running production networks configured with addresses that they own | going to do when they can't announce their prefix anymore? Bingo, | welcome to NATv6. | | Replacing site-locals with NATv6. Think about it. | | Michel. | | | -------------------------------------------------------------------- | IETF IPng Working Group Mailing List | IPng Home Page: http://playground.sun.com/ipng | FTP archive: ftp://playground.sun.com/pub/ipng | Direct all administrative requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------- IETF IPng Working Group Mailing List IPng Home Page: http://playground.sun.com/ipng FTP archive: ftp://playground.sun.com/pub/ipng Direct all administrative requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------
