Citerat fr�n Michel Py <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Please describe for me what consumer networks (a home connection > > to an ADSL provider for example) that have dynamic routing with > > their service providers? > > Mine, for example. I have a residential SBC aDSL line, single static > IP, > 256kbit up / 1mbit down for $49/mo which is mainstream in California. > I > have two IPv4 eBGP peers, three IPv6 eBGP peers (not the same ones as > v4), six EIGRP neighbors across IPSEC tunnels and I also do VOIP > across > tunnels, p2p file sharing (for educational purposes only, you > understand) and some other stuff.
Would you say that your network is a typical representation of a future Joe Six- Pack network with IPv6? With the eBGP peers and all? With that setup I think you are competent enough to handle your IPv6 internal network, and filtering (routing, access-lists and what not) without relying on site locals for any of it. > For customers I have installed lots of Cisco 800 series for ISDN, IDSL > and ADSL, some of which with built-in voice such as the 827-4V for > aDSL > or the uBR924/925 for cable and they all have dynamic routing and > route-maps, and these are at people's homes, but part of their > business > network. So the people in whos homes these devices are installed have several subnets internally and therefore needs to run a dynamic routing protocol within their home as well as extending it to the service provider upstream? Is NAT involved here somewhere? Or do you mean that there are VPNish configurations over which the dynamic routing is run with an internal corporate network but still a static configuration for the defaultroute to the service provider and vice verse? Does the people in their home manage their configuration and routers themselves or is that provided as part of the service? In my view the "consumer" is the average user connecting the home to the Internet by some form of broadband access to get access to triple-play services etc. Perhaps that connection is also used for telecommuting. But I do not see the requirement for dynamic routing and through that route filtering with the upstream service provider(s). Running a VPN tunnel and routing over that to the job over the broadband access is a different thing, most likely not involving the service provider at all except for carrying tunnel packets. > > Ok, so you mean that people like Sprint and Telia doesn't use > > route-filtering on their BGP peers in order to allow only paying > > customers transit? And that they doesn't use route-filtering on > > their incoming BGP peers from multihoming customers to ensure > > that those customers do not announce the Internet back to them? > > Yes they do and so do I, what is your point? Your view appears to be > limited to a very small fraction of the Internet and appears to stop > at > the border router of the enterprise. Beyond these border routers, > there > are hundreds and sometimes thousands of routers in the private > network. I commented on route filtering in combination with security. I argue that route filtering for security to prevent hacking is neither common nor encouraged. There are many valid uses of route filtering in networks with routing requirements. I do not think the average consumer network will be of such complexity to require filtering of routes, and I do not think that site locals would add anything if route filtering would be used for security to prevent hacking. -------------------------------------------------------------------- IETF IPng Working Group Mailing List IPng Home Page: http://playground.sun.com/ipng FTP archive: ftp://playground.sun.com/pub/ipng Direct all administrative requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------
