Carlos, the question is "where are the cost savings in renumbering an 
IPv6 network as opposed to renumbering an IPv4 network".

Tim

PS. According to dnsop people, everyone will use DHCPv6(!)

On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 11:20:07AM +0100, Carlos Friacas wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Tim Chown wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 02:57:05PM -0400, Keith Moore wrote:
> > >
> > > IPv6 gives users better ways to solve some problems (renumbering,
> > > attachment of a home network) whereas in IPv4 NATs were the
> > > best tools available.
> >
> > So where are the cost savings in renumbering an IPv6 network as opposed to
> > renumbering an IPv4 network?   This would be an interesting question to expand
> > on I think...
> 
> renumbering an IPv4 network:
> - The 1st critical parameter is *size*.
> *if* you are not using dhcp, even in an /27 segment (30 hosts if 100%
> used) it can be real hard to renumber. it consumes *time*, although being
> a simple/basic task. If you have a /24 or /23, well.. it is a real pain.
> - The 2nd critical parameter is how many "hard-wired" addresses
> (regarding services) you have inside it.
> dns servers are usually the biggest pain. if you use dhcp, resolvers are
> not a problem (if they are inside the network being renumbered), you just
> have to change a parameter in the dhcp server, if not it is a pain.
> but the trickiest/hardest part usually lies with authoritative
> nameservers -- If your "upper levels" (forwards and reverses) aren't fast
> enough to respond, you will think twice before going into a renumber. :-)
> 
> renumbering an IPv6 network:
> - The 2nd critical parameter i've mentioned is also valid for IPv6. :-(((
> 
> One more comment:
> Renumbering from 6BONE addresses to RIR addresses... it might be a good
> solution/idea to still route the /128s associated with addresses that are
> in somewhat way hard-wired to some services, as part of the phase-out
> process. e.g: keep the routing to 3FFE:XYZW:1:2::1/128 in your IGP to
> 2001:XYZW:1:2::1/128, but stop configuring 3FFE:XYZW:1:2::/64 on its
> gateway/router. This will prevent other machines to get a prefix in 3FFE,
> but still guarantees the connectivity to one single server in the "6bone
> context".
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> ./Carlos                                  "Upgrade the Internet! -- Now!"
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