-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Michel Py wrote:
> >>> Pekka Savola wrote: > >>> Sure, but there are also other ways to obtain addresses. > > >> Michel Py wrote: > >> Really? Would you care naming one available today? > > > a) talk to your ISP (or one of its upstreams), which his > > hopefully a LIR, or b) talk to any LIR, and pay him e.g. > > 100$/mo. He'll gladly give you address space even though > > you don't want physical connectivity at all. > > Is that what you call a solution available today? You have not been > listening. 1. I don't want to pay for it. 2. I don't want > that space to be reallocated to someone else if the LIR I got it from goes belly up. > Hijacking is less risky. Basically the need is for the possibility to get a globally unique prefix directly from the RIR's without becoming a LIR and without paying money for it. The prefix received from the RIR would then not be allowed to be seen anywhere in the global routing table but just and only for private interconnects bypassing "the internet". Also there should be a penalty for people leaking these prefixes. They could be stuck under the IX prefix assigments with the big warning that they are completely not globally routable. I would expect that the RIR's at least would require one to pay a registration fee and maybe a yearly fee so they can also easily check if the endsite using the space has not gone bellyup. Btw good assumption that RIR's won't go belly up :) > Now, it a part of each LIR space was earmarked for that purpose and if > there was a RIR policy that says that if LIR space is reallocated to a > new LIR the new LIR has to honor address assignments made by > the old one that would be another story. jj, where's your draft? Skip the LIR in this case and go directly to the RIR, maybe a sub-rir which sole purpose is 'distributing' these prefixes. One has to pay for domain names too, so these should not come for free either even where it only for the registration and administration costs. I think if you really want it for free, just hijack some 3ffe::/16 space, that won't be in use for years to come after 2006/6/6 :) Personally if I would require a /48 I would go to a friendly LIR and ask them a piece of the pie, I am aware of quite a lot of friendly ISP's who will do that for a case of beer :) (You can even get a /32 if you add some onions, but that is a different story :) Greets, Jeroen -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: Unfix PGP for Outlook Alpha 13 Int. Comment: Jeroen Massar / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://unfix.org/~jeroen/ iQA/AwUBP1yvsimqKFIzPnwjEQJvywCgq5D/U4znXR+o7solWYVUHz1uskAAnRiq M7Kro7/6+p1DJUvmJrzThXf5 =T/ia -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -------------------------------------------------------------------- IETF IPng Working Group Mailing List IPng Home Page: http://playground.sun.com/ipng FTP archive: ftp://playground.sun.com/pub/ipng Direct all administrative requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------
