On Sat, 13 Sep 2014, Daniel Migault wrote:

In the Toronto meeting, we agreed that MOBIKE versionning must be removed in 
the next version of the draft. We also agreed that Security
Consideration should discuss more in detail the exposure of the IP addresses. 
All these will be part of the next version.

Okay, good to know.

As a result, currently, when one receives USE_TRANSPORT_MODE and 
MOBIKE_SUPPORTED, it has to chose between supporting MOBIKE or the
transport mode.

That makes sense to me, because combining the two does not really make
sense.

Motivations for this are UDP (mostly DNS) but also GRE tunnels. In our opinion, 
for the DNS use case, saving bytes matters especially
when only the responses is returned over a degraded link like WLAN.

What kind of differences do you meassure? Is it latency? less packet
drops and retransmits?

I take it that mobike ensures the DNS response still comes in on the
correct IP, even if you have changed links. However, I would expect the
DNS answer to get lost anyway if you are switching links and have to
wait on a new IKE SA to be (re)established to re-gain an active IPsec SA
that has your 'inner' IP on it. I would expect those delays to matter
much more than shaving of a few bytes using transport mode instead
of tunnel mode.

I do need to readup on MOBIKE to further understand how one could even
use transport mode SA's for something that's clearly meant as a tunnel
mode SA. I do not understand how the outer IP is used while protecting
the mobike inner IP.

Paul

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