On 9/12/2014 11:02 AM, Paul Wouters wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Sep 2014, Yaron Sheffer wrote:
> 
>> This is a call for adopting draft-mglt-ipsecme-mobikev2 as a WG
>> document. Please respond to this mail with a Yes or No and a short
>> rationale, at latest by Friday Sep. 19.
> 
> This document confuses me.
> 
> It seems section 4 to 7 are about much more than just transport mode. It
> seems to (re?)introduce versioning, non-transport notify payloads, etc.
> 
> MOBIKE is about keeping your assigend address with you, making your
> inner IP consistent regardless of the outer IP. That makes no sense
> with transport mode, which is tied to your ephemeral outer address.
> 
> Transport mode IPsec is terrible idea in todays NATed world. It should
> die, not see more use. 

See RFC 3884. Just because you're getting rid of IPsec-controlled
tunnels doesn't mean you have to give up tunnels, and using separate
IP-in-IP tunneling has distinct advantages in today's dynamic routed,
virtual networked world.

If you want to pick something to die, please kill IPsec tunnel mode as
an integrated beast.

Joe

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