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> On Jul 8, 2015, at 04:18, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farr...@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:
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>>> intro: 3DES may be the "only other widely supported" cipher for
>>> IPsec, but that's not true more generally.
>> 
>> Well, this is a document about IPsec. It’s also true for TLS and SSH.
>> There’s also the occasional Blowfish and Camelia, but 3DES is more
>> common than any of them. There is RC4 and it’s fast, but (1) you
>> can’t use that in IPsec, and (2) you don’t want to use that in TLS
>> and SSH anyway.
> 
> The problem is the word "only" - that is simply not true in general.
> I'm not sure if it's true for VPNs.

It is VERY true. There is only aes and 3des of you want to interop with 
non-opensource IKE or IPsec.

> Camellia is widely supported in
> browsers for example. So your text ought be fixed.

Not in IKE or IPsec.

Paul

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