+1 

Speaking as an implementer, we have done something similar for our IKEv1 
clients, and would be happy to have something standards-based for IKEv2.

I would be happy to see this work become an RFC.

Yoav

> On 4 Mar 2016, at 7:05 PM, Tommy Pauly <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I would also like to see the draft for TCP encapsulation added as an item, 
> since we’ve gotten a fair amount of support for it. For the purposes of the 
> charter, it may be good to have a broader explanation of the goal—something 
> to the effect that the working group should focus on making sure that IKEv2 
> can be deployed more universally by taking into account limitations of 
> various networks. Previous RFCs like IKE fragmentation have contributed to 
> this; TCP encapsulation tries to solve another set of problematic networks; 
> and we can imagine that there may be more to investigate, such as taking into 
> account the limitations and requirements of IoT networks, etc.
> 
> Tommy
> 
>> On Mar 1, 2016, at 12:32 PM, Paul Wouters <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> S/mostly// 
>> 
>> Add IKE over tcp and DNS extensions for ikev2?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 1, 2016, at 11:18, Paul Hoffman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Greetings. We need to update our charter to reflect our current and 
>>> expected work. Dave and I propose the following text. Please let us know 
>>> within the next week if you have suggestions for changes.
>>> 
>>> --Paul Hoffman and Dave Waltermire
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The IPsec suite of protocols includes IKEv1 (RFC 2409 and associated RFCs),
>>> IKEv2 (RFC 7296), and the IPsec security architecture (RFC 4301). IPsec is
>>> widely deployed in VPN gateways, VPN remote access clients, and as a
>>> substrate for host-to-host, host-to-network, and network-to-network
>>> security.
>>> 
>>> The IPsec Maintenance and Extensions Working Group continues the work of
>>> the earlier IPsec Working Group which was concluded in 2005. Its purpose is
>>> to maintain the IPsec standard and to facilitate discussion of 
>>> clarifications,
>>> improvements, and extensions to IPsec, mostly to IKEv2.
>>> The working group also serves as a focus point for other IETF Working Groups
>>> who use IPsec in their own protocols.
>>> 
>>> The current work items include:
>>> 
>>> IKEv2 contains the cookie mechanism to protect against denial of service
>>> attacks. However this mechanism cannot protect an IKE end-point (typically,
>>> a large gateway) from "distributed denial of service", a coordinated attack 
>>> by
>>> a large number of "bots". The working group will analyze the problem and
>>> propose a solution, by offering best practices and potentially by extending
>>> the protocol.
>>> 
>>> IKEv2 utilizes a number of cryptographic algorithms in order to provide
>>> security services. To support interoperability a number of mandatory-to-
>>> implement (MTI) algorithms are defined in RFC4307. There is interest in
>>> updating the MTIs in
>>> RFC4307 based on new algorithms, changes to the understood security
>>> strength of existing algorithms, and the degree of adoption of previously
>>> introduced algorithms. The group will revise RFC4307 proposing updates to
>>> the MIT algorithms used by IKEv2 to address these changes.
>>> 
>>> There is interest in supporting Curve25519 and Curve448 for ephemeral key
>>> exchange in the IKEv2 protocol. The group will extend the
>>> IKEv2 protocol to support key agreement using these curves and their
>>> related functions.
>>> 
>>> This charter will expire in August 2016. If the charter is not updated 
>>> before
>>> that time, the WG will be closed and any remaining documents revert back to
>>> individual Internet-Drafts.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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